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		<title>By: ghg</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/12/chinese-auto-makers-face-road-blocks-on-the-eu-road/comment-page-1/#comment-239238</link>
		<dc:creator>ghg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;ve forgot the greatwall motor, i love hover</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;ve forgot the greatwall motor, i love hover</p>
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		<title>By: mundosanto</title>
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		<dc:creator>mundosanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, I think the brilliance is the ONLY brand that can make it to the European market, if they reach the security standards. The design of the brilliance cars are not only original, they are also pretty good looking, although we must recognize that the look of this cars are a bit behind in time compare to the rest of european brands.

The rest of the brands are trying  to fill some shoes way too big for them. Bad quality, low security standards, poorly copied designs. I don&#039;t think europeans would not even think about own one of this chinese cars, no matter how cheap they are, when they can still afford the original ones.

The chinese car companies have a lot to LEARN AND CREATE before they think about a place in such a tough and exigent market as the european vehicle market!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, I think the brilliance is the ONLY brand that can make it to the European market, if they reach the security standards. The design of the brilliance cars are not only original, they are also pretty good looking, although we must recognize that the look of this cars are a bit behind in time compare to the rest of european brands.</p>
<p>The rest of the brands are trying  to fill some shoes way too big for them. Bad quality, low security standards, poorly copied designs. I don&#8217;t think europeans would not even think about own one of this chinese cars, no matter how cheap they are, when they can still afford the original ones.</p>
<p>The chinese car companies have a lot to LEARN AND CREATE before they think about a place in such a tough and exigent market as the european vehicle market!</p>
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		<title>By: lll</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/12/chinese-auto-makers-face-road-blocks-on-the-eu-road/comment-page-1/#comment-16547</link>
		<dc:creator>lll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?When you start developing a better car than maybe they give a fucking hall. Until then, STFU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>?When you start developing a better car than maybe they give a fucking hall. Until then, STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHNSON</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/12/chinese-auto-makers-face-road-blocks-on-the-eu-road/comment-page-1/#comment-16352</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHNSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will have to charge more for the car in the Uk for several reasons.
1. the added cost of business in terms of freight, insurance, advertising, dealership hikes, the added cost of warranty etc.
2. I am not sure if there is a local contents rule for Britain as there is in Aus, but if there is then thats another factor.
3. safe guarding the prestige of the brand by keeping the price above a certain level. Often times that is decided based upon the perceived competitor models the MGs will be going up against. i.e the Mondeos, and even to some extend the BMW 3 series? But obviously that consideration will be weighted against the desire to sell big numbers of the car, so lets wait and see. But it&#039;ll definitely be more than 11K quid. 

Just on the note of safety, the transfer of title to a new manufacturer, does that mean the car necessarily keeps its previous safety ratings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will have to charge more for the car in the Uk for several reasons.<br />
1. the added cost of business in terms of freight, insurance, advertising, dealership hikes, the added cost of warranty etc.<br />
2. I am not sure if there is a local contents rule for Britain as there is in Aus, but if there is then thats another factor.<br />
3. safe guarding the prestige of the brand by keeping the price above a certain level. Often times that is decided based upon the perceived competitor models the MGs will be going up against. i.e the Mondeos, and even to some extend the <a title="BMW" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/bmw-china/">BMW</a> 3 series? But obviously that consideration will be weighted against the desire to sell big numbers of the car, so lets wait and see. But it&#8217;ll definitely be more than 11K quid. </p>
<p>Just on the note of safety, the transfer of title to a new manufacturer, does that mean the car necessarily keeps its previous safety ratings?</p>
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		<title>By: JOHNSON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHNSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d have to say so, its just happened so i&#039;d have to say they must&#039;ve re-enforced the safety cell. 3 Star isn&#039;t too bad. I&#039;d love to see the video</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d have to say so, its just happened so i&#8217;d have to say they must&#8217;ve re-enforced the safety cell. 3 Star isn&#8217;t too bad. I&#8217;d love to see the video</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those prices were taken from Auto Express, who probably took them from this site:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/210269/mgnanjing.html

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/08/23/good-lord-mg7-to-start-at-170000rmb/

I think the UK prices of the MG7 will be higher than the Chinese prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those prices were taken from Auto Express, who probably took them from this site:<br />
<a href="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/210269/mgnanjing.html"  target="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/210269/mgnanjing.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/08/23/good-lord-mg7-to-start-at-170000rmb/"  target="_blank">http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/08/23/good-lord-mg7-to-start-at-170000rmb/</a></p>
<p>I think the UK prices of the MG7 will be higher than the Chinese prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliance&#039;s BS6 also has a low rent interior, yet it cost&#039;s more than a Mondeo. Why would anyone in their right mind buy one? Also consider this. The MG 7 will launch with prices starting at just £11,500 in the UK. That&#039;s bargain basement territory, cheaper than many other smaller and inferior Western cars. Yet it&#039;s interior is well appointed, it&#039;s got 5 NCAP rating and a Euro 5 compliant engine. Surely this is the standard other Chinese car makers must now match. It&#039;s what we want from China over in Europe at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a>&#8217;s BS6 also has a low rent interior, yet it cost&#8217;s more than a Mondeo. Why would anyone in their right mind buy one? Also consider this. The <a title="MG" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/nanjing-mg">MG</a> 7 will launch with prices starting at just £11,500 in the UK. That&#8217;s bargain basement territory, cheaper than many other smaller and inferior Western cars. Yet it&#8217;s interior is well appointed, it&#8217;s got 5 NCAP rating and a Euro 5 compliant engine. Surely this is the standard other Chinese car makers must now match. It&#8217;s what we want from China over in Europe at least.</p>
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		<title>By: M0L0TOV</title>
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		<dc:creator>M0L0TOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So was the car modified? Spain is part of the EU and has to adhere to the same safety standards as Germany. Has the vehicle been reengineered that quickly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So was the car modified? Spain is part of the EU and has to adhere to the same safety standards as Germany. Has the vehicle been reengineered that quickly?</p>
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		<title>By: JOHNSON</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/12/chinese-auto-makers-face-road-blocks-on-the-eu-road/comment-page-1/#comment-16327</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHNSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/09/12/afx4108441.html

BS6 passes crash testin in europe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/09/12/afx4108441.html"  target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/09/12/afx4108441.html</a></p>
<p>BS6 passes crash testin in europe</p>
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		<title>By: M0L0TOV</title>
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		<dc:creator>M0L0TOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put your house on it or that wonderful caravan? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put your house on it or that wonderful caravan? <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JOHNSON</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/12/chinese-auto-makers-face-road-blocks-on-the-eu-road/comment-page-1/#comment-16312</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHNSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaha........ silence....i dont want to put my house on it though, mind you it cant get any worse. a 0 star rating would be unthinkable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaha&#8230;&#8230;.. silence&#8230;.i dont want to put my house on it though, mind you it cant get any worse. a 0 star rating would be unthinkable</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it was the first model they mass produced. 

What was the first of anything like?

BS4 + coupe have to be pretty good, right ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it was the first model they mass produced. </p>
<p>What was the first of anything like?</p>
<p>BS4 + coupe have to be pretty good, right ???</p>
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		<title>By: JOHNSON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHNSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think from one of the German site i read it cited the main fault of the Bs6 being its safety cell was not re-enforced and was hence too weak which meant it does not function as it should. Evidently it was pushed-in in the ENCAP test. Secondly, their cited the BS6 lacked side impact bars for which it was deducted 1 star. You would thing such safety cell designs BS would have an idea about since its almost certain they would have studied the sturdy BMW they assemble. So what would really be interesting to know is whether or not they purposely under-built (design and material)the BS6 to save costs? or are they just not up to it technically yet (again, this would seem strange).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think from one of the German site i read it cited the main fault of the Bs6 being its safety cell was not re-enforced and was hence too weak which meant it does not function as it should. Evidently it was pushed-in in the ENCAP test. Secondly, their cited the BS6 lacked side impact bars for which it was deducted 1 star. You would thing such safety cell designs BS would have an idea about since its almost certain they would have studied the sturdy <a title="BMW" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/bmw-china/">BMW</a> they assemble. So what would really be interesting to know is whether or not they purposely under-built (design and material)the BS6 to save costs? or are they just not up to it technically yet (again, this would seem strange).</p>
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		<title>By: M0L0TOV</title>
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		<dc:creator>M0L0TOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating article. The Chinese are definitely developing a strategy on entering more lucrative markets. I really do hope Brilliance is able to engineer safer cars, they&#039;re one of the few Chinese domestic manufacturers that&#039;s not blatantly copying other manufacturers designs. I remember Brilliance was allegedly reengineering the BS6 to pass European crash tests after dismal results. Any news on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating article. The Chinese are definitely developing a strategy on entering more lucrative markets. I really do hope <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> is able to engineer safer cars, they&#8217;re one of the few Chinese domestic manufacturers that&#8217;s not blatantly copying other manufacturers designs. I remember <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> was allegedly reengineering the BS6 to pass European crash tests after dismal results. Any news on that?</p>
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