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	<title>Comments on: Brilliance Coupe &#8211; on the market!</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-227819</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a BS4 saloon about 18 months ago and have been quite pleased  with the car my only moan is the under powered engine. My local dealer has a demonstration Coupe BS3 for sale that l was interested in until l asked the price he suggested it would be in the region of LE200,000 - LE220,000 (Egyptian pounds)at todays exchange rates this is about £23,000-£26,000!!! Sorry but at this price l can see them staying in the showroom. Plenty of quality competition available at those prices. How much are you guys over in Shanghai being asked to pay??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a BS4 saloon about 18 months ago and have been quite pleased  with the car my only moan is the under powered engine. My local dealer has a demonstration Coupe BS3 for sale that l was interested in until l asked the price he suggested it would be in the region of LE200,000 &#8211; LE220,000 (Egyptian pounds)at todays exchange rates this is about £23,000-£26,000!!! Sorry but at this price l can see them staying in the showroom. Plenty of quality competition available at those prices. How much are you guys over in Shanghai being asked to pay??</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Sport</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-127894</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Sport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the top version of the Coupe three months ago in Shanghai. So far it goes really well, the 1.8T engine is a lot of fun, stereo has great sounds and the look is 1A for an Asian Coupe. I was driving long distance (Shanghai - Beijing and vice vs) and especially the turbo power is great. Brilliance Service is very friendly and helpful, however they do not speak any English. Suspension seems sometimes a bit too hard for the bumpy streets in Shanghai, Beijing is fine. Originally from Germany I used to drive BMW 525i, Peugeot 206 and VW. Sure, Brilliance is not a BMW, but considering the price it gives me at least the same fun than driving a German car. Generally this car is a lot of fun and if you dont plan to crash it and dont mind small quality issues there is no reason to spend three times more for a German car to drive a sporty 170hp Coupe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the top version of the Coupe three months ago in Shanghai. So far it goes really well, the 1.8T engine is a lot of fun, stereo has great sounds and the look is 1A for an Asian Coupe. I was driving long distance (Shanghai &#8211; Beijing and vice vs) and especially the turbo power is great. <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> Service is very friendly and helpful, however they do not speak any English. Suspension seems sometimes a bit too hard for the bumpy streets in Shanghai, Beijing is fine. Originally from Germany I used to drive <a title="BMW" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/bmw-china/">BMW</a> 525i, Peugeot 206 and VW. Sure, <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> is not a <a title="BMW" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/bmw-china/">BMW</a>, but considering the price it gives me at least the same fun than driving a German car. Generally this car is a lot of fun and if you dont plan to crash it and dont mind small quality issues there is no reason to spend three times more for a German car to drive a sporty 170hp Coupe.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-51470</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally saw a coupe driving around the other day - the most identifiable feature...the front grill that resembles a girl&#039;s choice of underwear *cough* &quot;Gull Wings&quot;....  

Im not sure, if it was because of the crappy day and matching color of the auto (Sky was a gloomy grey, the auto was silver that needed a wash) - but this auto wasn&#039;t that eye catching...kinda felt like a fat Hyundai Tiburon (doesn&#039;t help that a shiney red one was a few cars behind it)... atleast from the side as it drove by....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally saw a coupe driving around the other day &#8211; the most identifiable feature&#8230;the front grill that resembles a girl&#8217;s choice of underwear *cough* &#8220;Gull Wings&#8221;&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Im not sure, if it was because of the crappy day and matching color of the auto (Sky was a gloomy grey, the auto was silver that needed a wash) &#8211; but this auto wasn&#8217;t that eye catching&#8230;kinda felt like a fat Hyundai Tiburon (doesn&#8217;t help that a shiney red one was a few cars behind it)&#8230; atleast from the side as it drove by&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-51469</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you share the link to the NCAP tests for the coupe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you share the link to the NCAP tests for the coupe?</p>
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		<title>By: sporty88</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-51468</link>
		<dc:creator>sporty88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one looks at the NACP crash tests, the Brilliance coupe seems to have the same survivability as with the sedan. While it may look nice the tests say it is dangerous junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one looks at the NACP crash tests, the <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> coupe seems to have the same survivability as with the sedan. While it may look nice the tests say it is dangerous junk.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-50791</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a red one in Beijing last month... haven&#039;t seen any others since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a red one in Beijing last month&#8230; haven&#8217;t seen any others since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-50303</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw one in QD, and one in the hell hole that is Tianjin. 

Bet the one you saw was red, wasnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw one in QD, and one in the hell hole that is Tianjin. </p>
<p>Bet the one you saw was red, wasnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-50296</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen one or two on the road now. I can tell you that back in December there were a lot of them rolling around the Brilliance factory. Not sure where they&#039;ve all gone to though as I only saw the first one on the road last month and that was in Hefei of all places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen one or two on the road now. I can tell you that back in December there were a lot of them rolling around the <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> factory. Not sure where they&#8217;ve all gone to though as I only saw the first one on the road last month and that was in Hefei of all places.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-50293</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this car in full production?  Kinda surprised I have not seen one yet...

Also did this auto ever get Crash-rated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this car in full production?  Kinda surprised I have not seen one yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Also did this auto ever get Crash-rated?</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-43181</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. It is a long story. The owner got his pants in a  twist that CCT took off like a rocket, and CCF stagnated. He banned my URL from my sig, from any posts etc etc. 

Never mind, all water under the bridge etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It is a long story. The owner got his pants in a  twist that CCT took off like a rocket, and CCF stagnated. He banned my URL from my sig, from any posts etc etc. </p>
<p>Never mind, all water under the bridge etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-43180</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha - well I know the statement &quot;China Car Times&quot; is not.  I sense there was some drama? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha &#8211; well I know the statement &#8220;China Car Times&#8221; is not.  I sense there was some drama? <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-43178</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>out of interest, is the word &#039;chinacartimes&#039; still banned on China Car Forums :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>out of interest, is the word &#8216;chinacartimes&#8217; still banned on China Car Forums <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-43176</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure this will help with your question about the transmission but....

From a post on Chinacarforums.com

&quot;6MT from GETRAG (Jiangxi) Transmission Co., Ltd, a China-Germany Joint Venture between GETRAG CORPORATE GROUP (Germany) and Jiangling Motor Group (China)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure this will help with your question about the transmission but&#8230;.</p>
<p>From a post on Chinacarforums.com</p>
<p>&#8220;6MT from GETRAG (Jiangxi) Transmission Co., Ltd, a China-Germany Joint Venture between GETRAG CORPORATE GROUP (Germany) and <a title="Jiangling" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/jiangling-motors">Jiangling</a> Motor Group (China)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-42905</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. I didn&#039;t know any Chinese cars were coming with 6 speed units. I wonder what the gearbox is like? My trial of some versions of the BS4 showed the 5 speed manual to be pretty bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting. I didn&#8217;t know any Chinese cars were coming with 6 speed units. I wonder what the gearbox is like? My trial of some versions of the BS4 showed the 5 speed manual to be pretty bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-42887</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob: Not usually no, you&#039;re looking at 8.5% tax, 500rmb reg fee + insurance of say 5000rmb. And as far as I know you can&#039;t bundle these into any finance package, so you&#039;re looking at a 30% downpayment plus the above. God knows how the average man in the street can afford a car here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob: Not usually no, you&#8217;re looking at 8.5% tax, 500rmb reg fee + insurance of say 5000rmb. And as far as I know you can&#8217;t bundle these into any finance package, so you&#8217;re looking at a 30% downpayment plus the above. God knows how the average man in the street can afford a car here!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-42872</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say top model, do you mean the most expensive (with the Automatic Transmission), or do you mean just having the biggest engine? - if the later - only 6K to go :-)

On a side note, when buying a car in China, does this price include all the miscellaneous taxes, registration fees, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say top model, do you mean the most expensive (with the Automatic Transmission), or do you mean just having the biggest engine? &#8211; if the later &#8211; only 6K to go <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On a side note, when buying a car in China, does this price include all the miscellaneous taxes, registration fees, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-42673</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

There was a recent price drop on the top 170,000rmb model by 8000rmb. Still not enough to make me want to drop 170k on one. 

150k, and id think long and hard, 170k, no way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>There was a recent price drop on the top 170,000rmb model by 8000rmb. Still not enough to make me want to drop 170k on one. </p>
<p>150k, and id think long and hard, 170k, no way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-42655</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brilliance coupe, originally came with a 5 speed?

Looks to now (or maybe always had?) a 6 speed?

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fauto.sina.com.cn%2Fnews%2F2008-04-11%2F1605364551.shtml&amp;langpair=zh%7Cen&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8

Looks like the suggested price hasn&#039;t budged much - 155,900 rmb for the 1.8T and 6 speed Manual.  (Assuming the Automatic is around 10-15K more?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> coupe, originally came with a 5 speed?</p>
<p>Looks to now (or maybe always had?) a 6 speed?</p>
<p><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fauto.sina.com.cn%2Fnews%2F2008-04-11%2F1605364551.shtml&#038;langpair=zh%7Cen&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8"  target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fauto.sina.com.cn%2Fnews%2F2008-04-11%2F1605364551.shtml&#038;langpair=zh%7Cen&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8</a></p>
<p>Looks like the suggested price hasn&#8217;t budged much &#8211; 155,900 rmb for the 1.8T and 6 speed Manual.  (Assuming the Automatic is around 10-15K more?)</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-36098</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1.8T engine is Zhonghua&#039;s own, although it was developed by or in cooperation with FEV of Germany. Zhonghua are currently developing a whole range of engines. The 1.8T is the first to see light of day. 

I agree with you Ash. The 2.4 is definitely a lesser engine. As far as I know it&#039;s quite an old Mitsubishi engine doing the rounds with a number of Chinese manufacturers such as Great Wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1.8T engine is Zhonghua&#8217;s own, although it was developed by or in cooperation with FEV of Germany. Zhonghua are currently developing a whole range of engines. The 1.8T is the first to see light of day. </p>
<p>I agree with you Ash. The 2.4 is definitely a lesser engine. As far as I know it&#8217;s quite an old Mitsubishi engine doing the rounds with a number of Chinese manufacturers such as Great Wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, The Mitsubishi engine is a lesser engine, and comes cheaper than the 1.8T. 

Mark - the dealer for Brilliance was hinting that the 1.8T is of Passat 1.8T origins. Not sure if that is true or not, or if he was just trying to make me believe its a great quality car (of which it is!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, The Mitsubishi engine is a lesser engine, and comes cheaper than the 1.8T. </p>
<p>Mark &#8211; the dealer for <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> was hinting that the 1.8T is of Passat 1.8T origins. Not sure if that is true or not, or if he was just trying to make me believe its a great quality car (of which it is!)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oooh - didn&#039;t know a 2.4 was an option, wonder how much of a premium for that nicety though :-/

Too bad they don&#039;t have a &quot;build your car&quot; page so you can see the options/prices...

It looks like whenever the Chery A6CC comes out (think it might be this year?) - it would be a direct competitor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooh &#8211; didn&#8217;t know a 2.4 was an option, wonder how much of a premium for that nicety though :-/</p>
<p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a &#8220;build your car&#8221; page so you can see the options/prices&#8230;</p>
<p>It looks like whenever the <a title="Chery" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/chery">Chery</a> A6CC comes out (think it might be this year?) &#8211; it would be a direct competitor?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the non turbo 1.8 is the same Harbin engine as in the BS4 you might as well have a hamster in a wheel for an engine. The Harbin engine used in the BS4 is either license built Mitsubishi engine or one based on technology from them. Information from Brilliance seems to be a bit conflicting.

I&#039;ve driven the 1.8T in a BS6 automatic  and it&#039;s a good engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the non turbo 1.8 is the same Harbin engine as in the BS4 you might as well have a hamster in a wheel for an engine. The Harbin engine used in the BS4 is either license built Mitsubishi engine or one based on technology from them. Information from <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> seems to be a bit conflicting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve driven the 1.8T in a BS6 automatic  and it&#8217;s a good engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-2/#comment-36073</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you have the choice of a standard 1.8 (non Turbo) or the 2.4 Mitsubishi with manual trans. I&#039;d take the 1.8T full stocked for 170k!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you have the choice of a standard 1.8 (non Turbo) or the 2.4 Mitsubishi with manual trans. I&#8217;d take the 1.8T full stocked for 170k!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im assuming for 160,950 gets you the 1.8T with all the goodies (leather, etc)... For 111,680, what type of engine would that get you?, would you be able to opt out not to get the rear wiper ;-)- would the suspension and manual transmission be the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im assuming for 160,950 gets you the 1.8T with all the goodies (leather, etc)&#8230; For 111,680, what type of engine would that get you?, would you be able to opt out not to get the rear wiper <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> - would the suspension and manual transmission be the same?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson2345889</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson2345889</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a good looking car!</description>
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		<title>By: aron</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely amazing. Can&#039;t wait till they sell these overseas. If it can muster up decent crash safety, which I&#039;m sure they can sort out, then sign me up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely amazing. Can&#8217;t wait till they sell these overseas. If it can muster up decent crash safety, which I&#8217;m sure they can sort out, then sign me up!</p>
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		<title>By: Asone</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17471</link>
		<dc:creator>Asone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice looking vehicle
I found some pics and video
http://www.lesvoitureschinoises.com/20070927257/voitures-chinoises/Photos-et-video-du-Brilliance-BC3-sur-la-route.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice looking vehicle<br />
I found some pics and video<br />
<a href="http://www.lesvoitureschinoises.com/20070927257/voitures-chinoises/Photos-et-video-du-Brilliance-BC3-sur-la-route.html"  target="_blank">http://www.lesvoitureschinoises.com/20070927257/voitures-chinoises/Photos-et-video-du-Brilliance-BC3-sur-la-route.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17443</link>
		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I like Brilliance more than the others it seems, but I also agree with some of the comments a little further up here. There is just something about the front light/grill design that is a deal breaker.

Some of these Brilliance cars even sound good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I like <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> more than the others it seems, but I also agree with some of the comments a little further up here. There is just something about the front light/grill design that is a deal breaker.</p>
<p>Some of these <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> cars even sound good.</p>
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		<title>By: mundosanto</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17429</link>
		<dc:creator>mundosanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I always thought if I buy a chinese car it would be a brilliance, and I hate copies. Brilliance is one of the very few brands with original cars and they are also very good looking. I have to admit the profile have a slight resemblance with the Hyundai Tiburon but I don&#039;t think they meant to copy that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I always thought if I buy a chinese car it would be a brilliance, and I hate copies. <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> is one of the very few brands with original cars and they are also very good looking. I have to admit the profile have a slight resemblance with the Hyundai Tiburon but I don&#8217;t think they meant to copy that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mememe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mememe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clone of what ?? If you can specify. And to be honest, people here are very open minded, if it is a clone then they will say it is a clone.

Brilliance is one of the few Chinese carmakers that do not copy cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clone of what ?? If you can specify. And to be honest, people here are very open minded, if it is a clone then they will say it is a clone.</p>
<p><a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> is one of the few Chinese carmakers that do not copy cars</p>
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		<title>By: HPROF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>HPROF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO FCK CLONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO FCK CLONE.</p>
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		<title>By: mundosanto</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17405</link>
		<dc:creator>mundosanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, that wiper looks like a leg! jajajajaja</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, that wiper looks like a leg! jajajajaja</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17395</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at it some more, just how big is that rear windscreen wiper? Jesus Christ. It would have been better to just leave it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it some more, just how big is that rear windscreen wiper? Jesus Christ. It would have been better to just leave it off.</p>
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		<title>By: woxihuanpijiu</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17384</link>
		<dc:creator>woxihuanpijiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nice looking car... think I better start saving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nice looking car&#8230; think I better start saving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/26/brilliance-coupe-on-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-17358</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen a comment who says the car&#039;s Chrome Grill bit looks like a lady&#039;s G-string :).  Kind of girly looking for some people, particularly for those Northern lads!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen a comment who says the car&#8217;s Chrome Grill bit looks like a lady&#8217;s G-string <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Kind of girly looking for some people, particularly for those Northern lads!!</p>
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