Comments on: I fought the law, and not surprisingly, they won! http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry and Chinese Cars Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:41:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Koolaid http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-29331 Koolaid Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:36:43 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-29331 Why not compromise between all much firepower and no firepower and give them tasers? Crossbows seem too bulky and troublesome. Why not compromise between all much firepower and no firepower and give them tasers? Crossbows seem too bulky and troublesome.

]]> By: Dog tucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17454 Dog tucker Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:12:33 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17454 Ash, be careful - just dont bend over when yr panties are down mate!! Ash, be careful - just dont bend over when yr panties are down mate!!

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17449 Ashley Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:49:10 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17449 Dogtucker, Its the way we roll in QD. Gotta go? Pull those panties down! Dogtucker,

Its the way we roll in QD. Gotta go? Pull those panties down!

]]> By: mark http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17437 mark Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:11:50 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17437 A few summary roadside executions is just what China needs to enforce it's traffice rules. That'll teach you not to obey the red light or give way to the pedestrian! Just looks at the questions for the driver's license and you'll see the rules are pretty normal and sane. Does that mean no one driving has actually taken the test? A few summary roadside executions is just what China needs to enforce it’s traffice rules. That’ll teach you not to obey the red light or give way to the pedestrian! Just looks at the questions for the driver’s license and you’ll see the rules are pretty normal and sane. Does that mean no one driving has actually taken the test?

]]> By: Dog tucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17433 Dog tucker Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:31:49 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17433 Mundo- you are 100% right. Mundo- you are 100% right.

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17428 mundosanto Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:44:19 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17428 I see that kind of things EVERY SINGLE DAY and is really disgusting and frustrating how nobody seem to care about this happening, at all. Why people behave that way, I just don't understand, may be Im not enough open minded. The things is when I talk to chinese people about this thing they also hate the situation but nobody say a word when they see this happening in the street, nobody complains. If everyone around there I mean EVERYONE do the same as Dog tucker and complain to this man he would probably feel a little bit of shame. People here seriously need to start talking! I see that kind of things EVERY SINGLE DAY and is really disgusting and frustrating how nobody seem to care about this happening, at all. Why people behave that way, I just don’t understand, may be Im not enough open minded.

The things is when I talk to chinese people about this thing they also hate the situation but nobody say a word when they see this happening in the street, nobody complains. If everyone around there I mean EVERYONE do the same as Dog tucker and complain to this man he would probably feel a little bit of shame. People here seriously need to start talking!

]]> By: Dog tucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17427 Dog tucker Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:30:26 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17427 Ash, what a target!! Imagine an arrow buried deeeply in his starfish! In fact the last time I was In Qingdao I watched a father take down his daughters pants and let her crap on the footpath - not on the grass or amongst the bushes next to the path. Within seconds of this there was poop being spread along the footpath and god knows where else by the locals, This was on Hong Kong Lu right outside Jusco!!! I went to the father and explained in my best Putonghua that maybe he should clean what was left of it up and why didnt he take her to the grass etc- he explained that she needed to go then and there!!God help Qingdao in the Olympics if the locals keep doing this!! Should help the image.Its the old 'no consequences for actions taken' syndrom that pervades here - even in the auto industry! Ash, what a target!! Imagine an arrow buried deeeply in his starfish! In fact the last time I was In Qingdao I watched a father take down his daughters pants and let her crap on the footpath - not on the grass or amongst the bushes next to the path. Within seconds of this there was poop being spread along the footpath and god knows where else by the locals, This was on Hong Kong Lu right outside Jusco!!! I went to the father and explained in my best Putonghua that maybe he should clean what was left of it up and why didnt he take her to the grass etc- he explained that she needed to go then and there!!God help Qingdao in the Olympics if the locals keep doing this!! Should help the image.Its the old ‘no consequences for actions taken’ syndrom that pervades here - even in the auto industry!

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17404 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:12:10 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17404 Well that is nasty!, I think I should take back what I said, go for the arrows, if the people baheve that way (like animals), they deserve no less. Now I want a crossbow too... Well that is nasty!, I think I should take back what I said, go for the arrows, if the people baheve that way (like animals), they deserve no less.

Now I want a crossbow too…

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17403 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:05:42 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17403 JOHNSON Thanks a lot for the aclaratory, you are right indeed, we must reckon that China is not a country or a society easy to understand. Im not coming from a paradise either, as you may know right now south america its a complete mess in every aspect, but I have seen things here in China that seem taken from a bizare fiction movie. But I also like this country, I wish I could do something to fix things here, starting from little problems such as the lack of conscience of the people, but I also understand that is not easy specially in a country with such an enormous population. You are right maybe I need to learn and understand more, I really try to be more open minded, but believe me is really hard. Thanks again there ;) JOHNSON Thanks a lot for the aclaratory, you are right indeed, we must reckon that China is not a country or a society easy to understand. Im not coming from a paradise either, as you may know right now south america its a complete mess in every aspect, but I have seen things here in China that seem taken from a bizare fiction movie. But I also like this country, I wish I could do something to fix things here, starting from little problems such as the lack of conscience of the people, but I also understand that is not easy specially in a country with such an enormous population. You are right maybe I need to learn and understand more, I really try to be more open minded, but believe me is really hard.

Thanks again there ;)

]]> By: woxihuanpijiu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17399 woxihuanpijiu Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:41:13 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17399 LOL.... I bet he didn't use any toilet paper or wash his hands as well..... LOL…. I bet he didn’t use any toilet paper or wash his hands as well…..

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17396 Ashley Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:02:40 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17396 I wish I had that crossbow tonight. Just driving home and took a right turn up a small unused road that is pitch black at night, flipped on the high beams and saw a taxi drivers pasty buttocks had partitioned in such a way that his starfish was highly visible. The dirty bugger was taking a pooh at the side of the road crouched behind his cab. Taking a pee, I can understand, taking a pooh is a bit far. I flipped the high beams off and continued driving in the dark, it was mentally safer. I wish I had that crossbow tonight.

Just driving home and took a right turn up a small unused road that is pitch black at night, flipped on the high beams and saw a taxi drivers pasty buttocks had partitioned in such a way that his starfish was highly visible.

The dirty bugger was taking a pooh at the side of the road crouched behind his cab. Taking a pee, I can understand, taking a pooh is a bit far. I flipped the high beams off and continued driving in the dark, it was mentally safer.

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17377 Ashley Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:19:14 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17377 Mundo, I was joking ;) Mundo,

I was joking ;)

]]> By: JOHNSON http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17374 JOHNSON Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:00:31 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17374 I think you're perception of China is very much misguided in terms of Western Culture. To understand China, you must understand it from its perspective as being independent from a Euro-centric point of view. Order is kept by force, that is a trait of Chinese civilisation for milleniums, it works in China and China needs it for the time being. Given the vast amount of ppl, and sometimes the ppl's blatent disreagard for the law, force in terms of heavy handed tactics are very much condoned not to mention practiced. No offence but, u dont understand china because precisely u dont know enough about China, and the social challenges in China. What you deem wild and tough, is in fact firm and neccessary. Every culture has its own tolerance level for the administaration of justice, in China, ppl just have to accept that for the time being, its much higher than it is in Europe or the US. In fact, what you deem to be Human Rights are just an conception of the legal system from which you come. Im sure u're not refering the the UN's Universal Human Rights which for one does not preclude the use of the death penalty and armed police as China in this case presents. Yes, in certain aspects China's human records haven't been good, but look at it this way, its a developing country, its has a massive population to contain, its trying to develop its legal system, so obviously there needs to be compromises. Personal rights just happen to be expendable to some degree at this time. But you must recognise that China is alot more liberal and encompass alot more freedoms and rights than the past, it is progressing. For all the criticisms ppl have about CHina's human rights record, they need to keep in mind the fact that through it, it has lower per capita crime or homocide rate than the US. And if human rights are so fundamentally valuable then why too does the US breach it in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba? Its Torture cells in Iraq and Europe? Why do American states have too the death penalty? Institutionalised abuses of rights in the US is both rampant and apparant, yet less light is focused on them, why? Now that will make a good topic for a discussion paper. If you are still interested in Human Rights and China, go to the UN site and read the Universal Decleration of Human Rights. China is a signatory and you'll find that its has provisions in its law to meet all the fundamental requirements. In practice it may still fall short, but given time, i think it will get there. Though I think ur criticism of China is valid, I think theres alot more you neglect in understanding why it is so. I think you’re perception of China is very much misguided in terms of Western Culture. To understand China, you must understand it from its perspective as being independent from a Euro-centric point of view. Order is kept by force, that is a trait of Chinese civilisation for milleniums, it works in China and China needs it for the time being. Given the vast amount of ppl, and sometimes the ppl’s blatent disreagard for the law, force in terms of heavy handed tactics are very much condoned not to mention practiced.
No offence but, u dont understand china because precisely u dont know enough about China, and the social challenges in China. What you deem wild and tough, is in fact firm and neccessary. Every culture has its own tolerance level for the administaration of justice, in China, ppl just have to accept that for the time being, its much higher than it is in Europe or the US. In fact, what you deem to be Human Rights are just an conception of the legal system from which you come. Im sure u’re not refering the the UN’s Universal Human Rights which for one does not preclude the use of the death penalty and armed police as China in this case presents. Yes, in certain aspects China’s human records haven’t been good, but look at it this way, its a developing country, its has a massive population to contain, its trying to develop its legal system, so obviously there needs to be compromises. Personal rights just happen to be expendable to some degree at this time. But you must recognise that China is alot more liberal and encompass alot more freedoms and rights than the past, it is progressing. For all the criticisms ppl have about CHina’s human rights record, they need to keep in mind the fact that through it, it has lower per capita crime or homocide rate than the US. And if human rights are so fundamentally valuable then why too does the US breach it in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba? Its Torture cells in Iraq and Europe? Why do American states have too the death penalty? Institutionalised abuses of rights in the US is both rampant and apparant, yet less light is focused on them, why? Now that will make a good topic for a discussion paper.
If you are still interested in Human Rights and China, go to the UN site and read the Universal Decleration of Human Rights. China is a signatory and you’ll find that its has provisions in its law to meet all the fundamental requirements. In practice it may still fall short, but given time, i think it will get there.
Though I think ur criticism of China is valid, I think theres alot more you neglect in understanding why it is so.

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17373 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:55:30 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17373 Well thats nice, maybe the illegal drivers can buy that and shoot arrows back to the police. That is a show I want to see and film! Arrows flying back and forw everywhere. jajajajaja Well thats nice, maybe the illegal drivers can buy that and shoot arrows back to the police. That is a show I want to see and film! Arrows flying back and forw everywhere. jajajajaja

]]> By: Nick in Shanghai http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17371 Nick in Shanghai Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:43:10 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17371 Nice Clash clip..........I saw them at the Hollywood Palladium @ 1983 ! I bet the Sheriff of Chongqing there thinks he can shoot out your tyres. People are amazed when you tell them what goes on here and that perhaps you're just spinning a yarn...... however truth is stranger than fiction in China. Nice Clash clip……….I saw them at the Hollywood Palladium @ 1983 !

I bet the Sheriff of Chongqing there thinks he can shoot out your tyres.

People are amazed when you tell them what goes on here and that perhaps you’re just spinning a yarn…… however truth is stranger than fiction in China.

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17369 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:29:43 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17369 Is that true?, Is that the M.O.? Im sorry, I don't mean to be mean, please don't think I hate chinese people, but that is the kind of things I can't stand about china, that is totally the chinese way, wild and tough, how come here still exist such thing as dead sentence just to mention something... How come there is no human rights in china, for example! Im sorry again, really... but this kind of things I can not accept. Is that true?, Is that the M.O.? Im sorry, I don’t mean to be mean, please don’t think I hate chinese people, but that is the kind of things I can’t stand about china, that is totally the chinese way, wild and tough, how come here still exist such thing as dead sentence just to mention something… How come there is no human rights in china, for example!

Im sorry again, really… but this kind of things I can not accept.

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17368 Ashley Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:00 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17368 Just had a look on taobao.com - they have the stringy bit but not the full crossbow. a client once gave me an an antique Manchurian bow and arrow as a gift, it must be worth a bomb. Just had a look on taobao.com - they have the stringy bit but not the full crossbow.

a client once gave me an an antique Manchurian bow and arrow as a gift, it must be worth a bomb.

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17366 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:12:08 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17366 Jajajaja well there you are right Dog tucker, there are way too many irresponsible drivers out there, I almost got hit many times. But the idea of arrows flying around... I don't know, I think that is for cavemen or wild natives in the amazon. There are a lot of better and modern ways to stop and punish bad drivers. I think a chinese police with arrows is as much dangerous as a monkey playing with razors in an elevator. NOT COOL AT ALL! Jajajaja well there you are right Dog tucker, there are way too many irresponsible drivers out there, I almost got hit many times. But the idea of arrows flying around… I don’t know, I think that is for cavemen or wild natives in the amazon. There are a lot of better and modern ways to stop and punish bad drivers.

I think a chinese police with arrows is as much dangerous as a monkey playing with razors in an elevator. NOT COOL AT ALL!

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17365 Ashley Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:09:45 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17365 'vehicle steerers' Classic. ‘vehicle steerers’

Classic.

]]> By: Ashley http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17364 Ashley Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:09:08 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17364 They'll get you as you speed towards them from 200 yards away, first warning is an arrow through the passenger head rest, and if you dont decrease your speed, the second shot will be through your heart! The next Cui Jian hit: 'I shot a speeder in Chongqing, just to watch him die' They’ll get you as you speed towards them from 200 yards away, first warning is an arrow through the passenger head rest, and if you dont decrease your speed, the second shot will be through your heart!

The next Cui Jian hit:
‘I shot a speeder in Chongqing, just to watch him die’

]]> By: Simon http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17363 Simon Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:06:15 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17363 How do you tell the difference between a driver who has been drinking and most of the other drivers in Chongqing? I mean, if you see the driving there you'd swear nearly every driver was drunk. How do you tell the difference between a driver who has been drinking and most of the other drivers in Chongqing? I mean, if you see the driving there you’d swear nearly every driver was drunk.

]]> By: Dog tucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17362 Dog tucker Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:04:53 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17362 Hey Mundo, its a great idea, get rid of some of the shocking vehicle steerers (they aint drivers here) before they get to kill you!! Give the person who had this idea a gold medal! Hey Mundo, its a great idea, get rid of some of the shocking vehicle steerers (they aint drivers here) before they get to kill you!! Give the person who had this idea a gold medal!

]]> By: Jonny Boy http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17360 Jonny Boy Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:58:24 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17360 That crossbow looks COOL. Where can I buy one? LOL That crossbow looks COOL. Where can I buy one? LOL

]]> By: mundosanto http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17356 mundosanto Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:51:03 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/09/27/i-fought-the-law-and-not-suprisingly-they-won/#comment-17356 I know I said I would like to see more strict and tough traffic police, but this is way out the line and VERY WILD, what are they going to do, put an arrow thru your chest if you are speeding? I don't know who in the government came up with this idea but that person is an animal, is like instead of improve we (they) are going backwards. That is a horrible idea, and the genius who thought that would be good is f***** animal! I know I said I would like to see more strict and tough traffic police, but this is way out the line and VERY WILD, what are they going to do, put an arrow thru your chest if you are speeding? I don’t know who in the government came up with this idea but that person is an animal, is like instead of improve we (they) are going backwards.
That is a horrible idea, and the genius who thought that would be good is f***** animal!

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