Comments on: Dongfeng to launch own brand sedan this year? http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry and Chinese Cars Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:22:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32716 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:55:34 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32716 I agree with Colin, you could make a section that people could introduce themselves... . although I think that the kind of car any of us drive makes no influence on our opinions and considerations here... I agree with Colin, you could make a section that people could introduce themselves…
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although I think that the kind of car any of us drive makes no influence on our opinions and considerations here…

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32715 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:51:55 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32715 hahaaha sorry about that I was just outraged since it took me several minutes to write that post, but the forum just wouldn't accept it... . so I've tried and tried until I figured out the forum would only accept automatically posts with only one internet link in it... so, I went on and divided that mega-post into several ones... . sorry for making you loose you whole morning.. =) hahaaha sorry about that
I was just outraged since it took me several minutes to write that post, but the forum just wouldn’t accept it…
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so I’ve tried and tried until I figured out the forum would only accept automatically posts with only one internet link in it…
so, I went on and divided that mega-post into several ones…
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sorry for making you loose you whole morning.. =)

]]> By: Colin G http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32639 Colin G Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:13:34 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32639 On a completely unrelated topic. But whilst I have the attention of the moderator....how about a survey on what cars the contributors drive. It'd be interesting to see what the likes of Ash, Jackson Liu or Mememe drive. On a completely unrelated topic. But whilst I have the attention of the moderator….how about a survey on what cars the contributors drive. It’d be interesting to see what the likes of Ash, Jackson Liu or Mememe drive.

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32630 Ash Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:48:32 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32630 Yes, cleaning up your 50 posts on quite arguably the busiest working day of the year was the highlight of my morning ;) Yes, cleaning up your 50 posts on quite arguably the busiest working day of the year was the highlight of my morning ;)

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32629 Ash Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:47:42 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32629 Erik, send it to me, and ill make an article out of it if you wish. Erik, send it to me, and ill make an article out of it if you wish.

]]> By: Erik http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32627 Erik Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:06:40 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32627 hi Ash, is there a way to put a picture here, I have some pictures of a Dongfeng prototype version of the Elysee, and it looks like that is the car we have to expect. Erik. hi Ash, is there a way to put a picture here, I have some pictures of a Dongfeng prototype version of the Elysee, and it looks like that is the car we have to expect. Erik.

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32589 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:40:02 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32589 asyou can see from the post below, I think you are the one who should probably get better information before judging somebody else... asyou can see from the post below, I think you are the one who should probably get better information before judging somebody else…

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32588 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:38:58 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32588 that's odd... anyway CCT moderator seems to have accepted my mega-post and deleteded the split ones... that’s odd…
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CCT moderator seems to have accepted my mega-post and deleteded the split ones…

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32580 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:22:11 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32580 I really apologize for posting 11 times to get my reply. . I've tried to make it all in one single post, but seems that this forum DOES NOT accept posts with more than ONE internet link in it... I really apologize for posting 11 times to get my reply.
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I’ve tried to make it all in one single post, but seems that this forum DOES NOT accept posts with more than ONE internet link in it…

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32549 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:44:11 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32549 if the hummer is made under license, so I guess you shouldn't mention, in the article above, that it is one of the dongfeng "own" cars. if the hummer is made under license, so I guess you shouldn’t mention, in the article above, that it is one of the dongfeng “own” cars.

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32545 jackson liu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:37:37 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32545 1)if the hummer is made under license, so I guess you shouldn't mention, in the article above, that it is one of the dongfeng "own" cars. . 2)Hyundai Tiburon RIP-OFF!!! please consider the following pictures: http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/1997-2001-Hyundai-Tiburon-98803031990107.jpg and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/00-01_Hyundai_Tiburon.jpg/800px-00-01_Hyundai_Tiburon.jpg . http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfengmonster1.jpg . there's no denying the monster is heavily based on the tiburon... aside the headlights and grille, the rest of the car is pure rip-off... the whole body shape is tiburon. . the rear though, is based on the facelift of the first tiburon (2000) : http://www.allpar.com/reviews/photos/im/tiburon-back.jpg . http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfengmonster.jpg as I said, the dongfeng is just a monster version of the already ugly/poser tiburon. . 3)It doesn't matter if it was designed in China, Italy, Brazil or Iceland... what matters is that the minivan's design is also purely a copy of an existing product... http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/saloes/sp04/grandis-1g.jpg . http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfeng_mpv.jpg . if I wasn't told it was a dongfeng, I would take it as a grandis easily... the front end is just IDENTICAL!!!! It doesn't matter either if it's smaller, or meant to compete with this or that... IT'S A CARBON COPIED CAR! Those facts don't change that... . chinese automakers, once again, showing their great criativity... they COPY cars, but from different automakers...!! 1)if the hummer is made under license, so I guess you shouldn’t mention, in the article above, that it is one of the dongfeng “own” cars.
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2)Hyundai Tiburon RIP-OFF!!!
please consider the following pictures:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400×266/1997-2001-Hyundai-Tiburon-98803031990107.jpg
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/00-01_Hyundai_Tiburon.jpg/800px-00-01_Hyundai_Tiburon.jpg
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http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfengmonster1.jpg
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there’s no denying the monster is heavily based on the tiburon… aside the headlights and grille, the rest of the car is pure rip-off… the whole body shape is tiburon.
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the rear though, is based on the facelift of the first tiburon (2000) :
http://www.allpar.com/reviews/photos/im/tiburon-back.jpg
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http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfengmonster.jpg
as I said, the dongfeng is just a monster version of the already ugly/poser tiburon.
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3)It doesn’t matter if it was designed in China, Italy, Brazil or Iceland… what matters is that the minivan’s design is also purely a copy of an existing product…
http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/saloes/sp04/grandis-1g.jpg
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http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/2007/09/dongfeng_mpv.jpg
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if I wasn’t told it was a dongfeng, I would take it as a grandis easily… the front end is just IDENTICAL!!!!
It doesn’t matter either if it’s smaller, or meant to compete with this or that… IT’S A CARBON COPIED CAR! Those facts don’t change that…
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chinese automakers, once again, showing their great criativity… they COPY cars, but from different automakers…!!

]]> By: mememe http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32489 mememe Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:54:19 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32489 Jackson Liu it is always better to get information before making accusations. Jackson Liu

it is always better to get information before making accusations.

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32447 Ash Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:08:24 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32447 The hummer is made under license. The coupe is ugly, that there is no denying, but comparing it to the Tiberion? They are vastly different! The minivan design was outsourced to Italy, it is a lot smaller than the road hulk, the Grandis. Dongfeng are planning to take this car up against the Chang'an CV8/Landwind Shi Shang sector. The hummer is made under license.

The coupe is ugly, that there is no denying, but comparing it to the Tiberion? They are vastly different!

The minivan design was outsourced to Italy, it is a lot smaller than the road hulk, the Grandis. Dongfeng are planning to take this car up against the Chang’an CV8/Landwind Shi Shang sector.

]]> By: jackson liu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32435 jackson liu Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:10:31 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/11/dongfeng-to-launch-own-brand-sedan-this-year/#comment-32435 as far as I've seen, dongfeng "own" cars are only rip-offs, as seen on that fugly coupe (copy of the already ugly Hyundai Tiburon), the minivan (Mitsubishi Grandis), not to mention the Hummer... . I wonder which vehicle is dongfeng going to copy and claim it to be it's "own" sedan.. as far as I’ve seen, dongfeng “own” cars are only rip-offs, as seen on that fugly coupe (copy of the already ugly Hyundai Tiburon), the minivan (Mitsubishi Grandis), not to mention the Hummer…
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I wonder which vehicle is dongfeng going to copy and claim it to be it’s “own” sedan..

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