Comments on: The most dangerous roads in China http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry and Chinese Cars Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:38:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Gerald http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99906 Gerald Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:16:17 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99906 nice collection, those roads look really tough, didnt know china has such challenges nice collection, those roads look really tough, didnt know china has such challenges

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99582 Ash Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:36:54 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99582 When is next years event? I will bring an MTB, if I must, a road bike! When is next years event? I will bring an MTB, if I must, a road bike!

]]> By: Klaus http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99562 Klaus Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:57:07 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99562 Ash, Check in frequently or better sign in at www.gzcycle.com . We will post on this group site information for further bike events, (Road or MTB) including info for next year's event. You must join that race as it's a one time a life experience. Cheers, Klaus (GZCycle Team) Ash,

Check in frequently or better sign in at www.gzcycle.com . We will post on this group site information for further bike events, (Road or MTB) including info for next year’s event. You must join that race as it’s a one time a life experience.

Cheers, Klaus (GZCycle Team)

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99544 Ash Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:30:23 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99544 Phillip, as a cyclist myself, I would be very interested in your pictures. please send them! email address is on the contact page! Although Im not a Roadie, instead preferring offroad, beer and cake, I can appreciate a good view! Phillip, as a cyclist myself, I would be very interested in your pictures. please send them! email address is on the contact page!

Although Im not a Roadie, instead preferring offroad, beer and cake, I can appreciate a good view!

]]> By: Philip Richardson http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99521 Philip Richardson Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:50:01 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-99521 September 25, 2008 Tian Men Shan, Hunan is probably the most spectacular, cycling race I have ever participated in the world. Not to be taken lightly as I have ridden in at least 20 countries! The day before the road cycling race (Sept.13)our team (GZCYCLE)took the cable cars up to wreak havoc at the top but it was so beautiful that it took us at least 15 minutes before we started lobbing hand size granite projectiles over the side of the cliff. We of course worked our way up to larger rocks in the spirit of the Olympics and commenced executing our version of the shotput. Oh joyous day and whatfun had by all! The sheer cliff drops, coupled with an average of 10% grade, 99 switchbacks and drop dead gorgeous views makes for a fairy tale ride and scenery. Dramatic, (LORD OF THE RINGS DRAMATIC)stark contrast of black granite, and greener than Maui ganji green, make for breathtaking views. One almost expects to see a real dragon fly through the porthole at the top, instead we made a few paper airplanes as an engineering excercise (of course) to prove out our theories of thermal lift. You can also take the cable car to the top the last landing then hike to heavens gate which is the big hole in the cliff that stunt airplanes currently fly through including a MIG once in 1990.(I wonder why only once) Although the race uphill did not lend itself to taking in the views (due to my focus on the road directly below my cycling computer exhibiting a heart rate of 180) very steep, the ride down was spectacular. Our group (GZCYCLE) did not wait for the pacecar down, we just engaged the downhill without assistance in a fashion typical with western cycling hammerheads. Naturally! For beautiful pictures and more details you may e-mail me and I'll send you pictures that really show this incredible fantasy place. Ciao, Philip Richardson EXPAT Guangzhou September 25, 2008
Tian Men Shan, Hunan is probably the most spectacular, cycling race I have ever participated in the world. Not to be taken lightly as I have ridden in at least 20 countries!

The day before the road cycling race (Sept.13)our team (GZCYCLE)took the cable cars up to wreak havoc at the top but it was so beautiful that it took us at least 15 minutes before we started lobbing hand size granite projectiles over the side of the cliff.
We of course worked our way up to larger rocks in the spirit of the Olympics and commenced executing our version of the shotput. Oh joyous day and whatfun had by all!

The sheer cliff drops, coupled with an average of 10% grade, 99 switchbacks and drop dead gorgeous views makes for a fairy tale ride and scenery. Dramatic, (LORD OF THE RINGS DRAMATIC)stark contrast of black granite, and greener than Maui ganji green, make for breathtaking views. One almost expects to see a real dragon fly through the porthole at the top, instead we made a few paper airplanes as an engineering excercise (of course) to prove out our theories of thermal lift.

You can also take the cable car to the top the last landing then hike to heavens gate which is the big hole in the cliff that stunt airplanes currently fly through including a MIG once in 1990.(I wonder why only once)

Although the race uphill did not lend itself to taking in the views (due to my focus on the road directly below my cycling computer exhibiting a heart rate of 180) very steep, the ride down was spectacular. Our group (GZCYCLE) did not wait for the pacecar down, we just engaged the downhill without assistance in a fashion typical with western cycling hammerheads. Naturally!

For beautiful pictures and more details you may e-mail me and I’ll send you pictures that really show this incredible fantasy place.

Ciao,

Philip Richardson
EXPAT Guangzhou

]]> By: jarek http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-92761 jarek Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:51:40 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-92761 Nice post. Actually Tian Men Shan is closed to traffic. It is used by small buses taking tourists up and down. We did a cycling race there on Sep 14th 2008. Besides this organized event, the road is also closed to cyclists. I couldn't imagine the body count if they let everyone loose on it. cheers, jarek Nice post. Actually Tian Men Shan is closed to traffic. It is used by small buses taking tourists up and down. We did a cycling race there on Sep 14th 2008. Besides this organized event, the road is also closed to cyclists. I couldn’t imagine the body count if they let everyone loose on it.
cheers, jarek

]]> By: Michael Simons http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34448 Michael Simons Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:16:44 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34448 Well, on the screen they look so nice. More hairpins than most alp-pass-roads. But if one knows a bit about chinese road, they become a threat indeed. A pity actually. Cheers, Michael Well, on the screen they look so nice. More hairpins than most alp-pass-roads. But if one knows a bit about chinese road, they become a threat indeed. A pity actually.
Cheers, Michael

]]> By: Bhumika http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34412 Bhumika Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:33:16 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34412 These are really tiring and dangerous roads... The loops in the bottom left pic on "Tian Men Shan Big Gate Road" must be causing a lot of accidents. These are really tiring and dangerous roads… The loops in the bottom left pic on “Tian Men Shan Big Gate Road” must be causing a lot of accidents.

]]> By: dragin http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34383 dragin Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:57:58 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34383 Early autumn, clear day, early in the morning, stone sober. Such are the preferred conditions for negotiating these kind of hill descents. And the climbs are challenging too, as the rock slides present lots of surprises. I wonder which perceptive Chinese car maker(s) send engineering teams out to places like this for vehicle testing. Does China have a Pikes Peak type climb competition? Thank you for the great photos Ash. Early autumn, clear day, early in the morning, stone sober. Such are the preferred conditions for negotiating these kind of hill descents. And the climbs are challenging too, as the rock slides present lots of surprises.
I wonder which perceptive Chinese car maker(s) send engineering teams out to places like this for vehicle testing. Does China have a Pikes Peak type climb competition?
Thank you for the great photos Ash.

]]> By: Ash http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34347 Ash Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:10:54 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34347 Ill look for them! Once saw a tally chart style road death sign in Tibet, it said 'xxx no of dead on this road so far this year!' Ill look for them! Once saw a tally chart style road death sign in Tibet, it said ‘xxx no of dead on this road so far this year!’

]]> By: Paul http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34345 Paul Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:49:39 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34345 Excellant Post Ash - and I thought the A8 and A11 were bad! I would be interested to find out which were the most dangerous in terms of accidents/deaths! Excellant Post Ash - and I thought the A8 and A11 were bad!

I would be interested to find out which were the most dangerous in terms of accidents/deaths!

]]> By: Nick in Shanghai http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34341 Nick in Shanghai Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:40:50 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34341 I've ridden parts of 213, Chengdu to Lanzhou section on a motorbike.......f$@&ing mess it was. With a big bit under construction, mud, ice and potholes big enough to swallow a yak. The picture there with the mud and snow, 3rd one down.......we had less snow more mud, deeper ruts. I’ve ridden parts of 213, Chengdu to Lanzhou section on a motorbike…….f$@&ing mess it was. With a big bit under construction, mud, ice and potholes big enough to swallow a yak.

The picture there with the mud and snow, 3rd one down…….we had less snow more mud, deeper ruts.

]]> By: JOHNSON http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34310 JOHNSON Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:27:16 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34310 the aim is to drift past the first corner....anything after that is just a clause in the life insurance policy...lol the aim is to drift past the first corner….anything after that is just a clause in the life insurance policy…lol

]]> By: woxihuanpijiu http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34226 woxihuanpijiu Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:41:41 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/02/29/the-most-dangerous-roads-in-china/#comment-34226 Drift anyone?? Drift anyone??

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