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	<title>Comments on: Brilliance BS4 Station Wagon: A Wagon we could roll in!</title>
	<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47415</link>
		<author>Mr Schwartz</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47415</guid>
		<description>Looked really great in person, Brilliance also had a nice stand at Beijing 2008 with a overseas friends reception area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked really great in person, Brilliance also had a nice stand at Beijing 2008 with a overseas friends reception area.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47275</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 10:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47275</guid>
		<description>Thanks for setting the record straight Ash. Typical employee knowing nothing about his company's products!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for setting the record straight Ash. Typical employee knowing nothing about his company&#8217;s products!</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47242</link>
		<author>Ash</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47242</guid>
		<description>1.8 engine is the 4G93 model
2.0 engine is the 4G63S4M model

Both are coming from a supplier called Shenyang Huachen Jinbei Automobile Company. 

Seems Dragin is right, Zhonghua do have a slice of the Mitsubishi making pie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.8 engine is the 4G93 model<br />
2.0 engine is the 4G63S4M model</p>
<p>Both are coming from a supplier called Shenyang Huachen Jinbei Automobile Company. </p>
<p>Seems Dragin is right, Zhonghua do have a slice of the Mitsubishi making pie!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47117</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47117</guid>
		<description>You might well be right. It's not the first time an employee would know nothing about his company's products. Trying to get any sense out of a gaggle of 6 employees was difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might well be right. It&#8217;s not the first time an employee would know nothing about his company&#8217;s products. Trying to get any sense out of a gaggle of 6 employees was difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: dragin</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47071</link>
		<author>dragin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-47071</guid>
		<description>It surprises me to hear it but I guess I am wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It surprises me to hear it but I guess I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46988</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46988</guid>
		<description>At least one Brilliance employee told me that the 1.8 was a Harbin engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least one Brilliance employee told me that the 1.8 was a Harbin engine.</p>
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		<title>By: dragin</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46820</link>
		<author>dragin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46820</guid>
		<description>If this were around when wagons were cool, this one would have blown away all the competition. 
I really like it and think that with gas prices on the rise it may be just the ticket for getting the kids back and forth to soccer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this were around when wagons were cool, this one would have blown away all the competition.<br />
I really like it and think that with gas prices on the rise it may be just the ticket for getting the kids back and forth to soccer.</p>
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		<title>By: dragin</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46817</link>
		<author>dragin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46817</guid>
		<description>I don't think so Mark, although Mitsubishi may be building some engines in Harbin for Hafei. Shenyang Aerospace Mitsubishi Engine Manufacturing Co. is located in Shenyang. I once heard that Brilliance owned upward of 31% of this operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so Mark, although Mitsubishi may be building some engines in Harbin for Hafei. Shenyang Aerospace Mitsubishi Engine Manufacturing Co. is located in Shenyang. I once heard that Brilliance owned upward of 31% of this operation.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46699</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46699</guid>
		<description>Aren't the engines from Harbin rather than Shenyang?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t the engines from Harbin rather than Shenyang?</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46549</link>
		<author>Ash</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46549</guid>
		<description>Genuine? They look like the kind of pictures that Pinafirina roll out when showing off designs. 

I agree with you, the Shenyang Mitsubishi engines are not that good once post 1.3l.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genuine? They look like the kind of pictures that Pinafirina roll out when showing off designs. </p>
<p>I agree with you, the Shenyang Mitsubishi engines are not that good once post 1.3l.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46540</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/04/30/brilliance-bs4-station-wagon-a-wagon-we-could-roll-in/#comment-46540</guid>
		<description>So do you think these pictures are genuine? The scenery is obviously photoshopped but what about the rest of it? If not it is a massive improvement over the existing BS4 and looks really good. 

Brilliance did tell me they were thinking of doing darker leather for the European market. Looks good.

Hope they don't put the two engines in the car that you mention Ash. The 1.8 is a turkey and the 2.0 not much better. This car needs the 1.8T and the turbo diesel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do you think these pictures are genuine? The scenery is obviously photoshopped but what about the rest of it? If not it is a massive improvement over the existing BS4 and looks really good. </p>
<p>Brilliance did tell me they were thinking of doing darker leather for the European market. Looks good.</p>
<p>Hope they don&#8217;t put the two engines in the car that you mention Ash. The 1.8 is a turkey and the 2.0 not much better. This car needs the 1.8T and the turbo diesel.</p>
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