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	<title>Comments on: BYD F3 Hybrid - 100,000rmb to 130,000rmb</title>
	<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/</link>
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		<title>By: papadad</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/#comment-77037</link>
		<author>papadad</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm still learning about mine but I think the value is pretty good so far.      

What I like:  japanese 4S15 Mitsubishi engine and transmission.  
Price: very good value so far
Tires/Brakes:  195 wide tires, 4 wheel ABS disk (not drum) brakes. 

Mine has the 4S15 mitsubishi engine (not the 4S18 that are being put in now on the F3.... The F3R is still using 4S15).  It is 1.5 liters and this engine is VERY well proven for at least 15 years in vehicles like Mitsubishi Lancer / Mirage.  Also the Malaysian PROTON used this engine for years.    The specification is almost same as 4S18 (horsepower etc) but the 4S15 has  better fuel economy I am told.  

engine has 1000 kms only, and is getting 100KM on 7.5 litres of fuel.  This is using more fuel than what is published (100KM for 4.9L) but the engine is new and I use air conditioning and combination of expressway and  city stop/go traffic on 3rd ring road.   

The body parts etc appear to be very similar to Toyota, maybe even inter-changeable.  I dont know.   I have no information on spare parts, but would like information on whether Toyota brake calipers, rotors etc are interchangeable. 

Simple engine modification:  I replaced the standard air filter and airbox with a high flow K&#38;N filter and have a noticeable improvement in acceleration and horsepower, especially with the air conditioning turned on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m still learning about mine but I think the value is pretty good so far.      </p>
<p>What I like:  japanese 4S15 Mitsubishi engine and transmission.<br />
Price: very good value so far<br />
Tires/Brakes:  195 wide tires, 4 wheel ABS disk (not drum) brakes. </p>
<p>Mine has the 4S15 mitsubishi engine (not the 4S18 that are being put in now on the F3&#8230;. The F3R is still using 4S15).  It is 1.5 liters and this engine is VERY well proven for at least 15 years in vehicles like Mitsubishi Lancer / Mirage.  Also the Malaysian PROTON used this engine for years.    The specification is almost same as 4S18 (horsepower etc) but the 4S15 has  better fuel economy I am told.  </p>
<p>engine has 1000 kms only, and is getting 100KM on 7.5 litres of fuel.  This is using more fuel than what is published (100KM for 4.9L) but the engine is new and I use air conditioning and combination of expressway and  city stop/go traffic on 3rd ring road.   </p>
<p>The body parts etc appear to be very similar to Toyota, maybe even inter-changeable.  I dont know.   I have no information on spare parts, but would like information on whether Toyota brake calipers, rotors etc are interchangeable. </p>
<p>Simple engine modification:  I replaced the standard air filter and airbox with a high flow K&amp;N filter and have a noticeable improvement in acceleration and horsepower, especially with the air conditioning turned on.</p>
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		<title>By: black</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/#comment-76748</link>
		<author>black</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/#comment-76748</guid>
		<description>hey i need to now more about byd f3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i need to now more about byd f3</p>
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		<title>By: papadad</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/#comment-68271</link>
		<author>papadad</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you can get a set of Toyota logos for about 50 RMB to replace the front, rear, and wheel BYD logos.  Once complete, the car looks just like a Toyota Corolla.  

I did that on my new F3 after deciding the BYD logo was dumb looking.....and now everyone thinks I drive a Toyota (ok, with a Mitsubishi engine).

But I hear that BYD also recently change the blue/black BMW copy logo to a Red/Chrome BYD logo.  Maybe they get the message. 

F3 -- only 800 KM but so far, so good.   

Would be interesting to see the F3DM hybred.  I bet they sell a lot of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you can get a set of Toyota logos for about 50 RMB to replace the front, rear, and wheel BYD logos.  Once complete, the car looks just like a Toyota Corolla.  </p>
<p>I did that on my new F3 after deciding the BYD logo was dumb looking&#8230;..and now everyone thinks I drive a Toyota (ok, with a Mitsubishi engine).</p>
<p>But I hear that BYD also recently change the blue/black BMW copy logo to a Red/Chrome BYD logo.  Maybe they get the message. </p>
<p>F3 &#8212; only 800 KM but so far, so good.   </p>
<p>Would be interesting to see the F3DM hybred.  I bet they sell a lot of them.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/08/18/byd-f3-hybrid-100000rmb-to-130000rmb/#comment-64197</link>
		<author>tom</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can't they spend $3 to change that ghetto looking BMW logo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t they spend $3 to change that ghetto looking BMW logo?</p>
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