Comments on: Chevrolet Cruze – spotted again! http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:17:35 +0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: I_Hate_China http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-87452 I_Hate_China Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:06:29 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-87452 > Per GM’s press release, they dare not mention the stigma of being associated with the previous Delta platforms designed by GM Daewoo. One wonders why control was passed to Opel instead. Nope. Delta-1 was developed by Opel. Delta-2 is developed by GM Daewoo. Delta-1 and Delta-2 have nothing to do with each other, as Delta-2 is much bigger, big enough to underpin 2012 Saab 9-3, a new minivan, and Chevy Volt which is heavy due to its large battery weight. GM Car Platform Gamma-2(Subcompact) : GM Daewoo Delta-2(Compact) : GM Daewoo Epsilon-2(Mid-size) : Opel Zeta(Full-size RWD) : Holden > Per GM’s press release, they dare not mention the stigma of being associated with the previous Delta platforms designed by GM Daewoo. One wonders why control was passed to Opel instead.

Nope. Delta-1 was developed by Opel. Delta-2 is developed by GM Daewoo. Delta-1 and Delta-2 have nothing to do with each other, as Delta-2 is much bigger, big enough to underpin 2012 Saab 9-3, a new minivan, and Chevy Volt which is heavy due to its large battery weight.

GM Car Platform

Gamma-2(Subcompact) : GM Daewoo
Delta-2(Compact) : GM Daewoo
Epsilon-2(Mid-size) : Opel
Zeta(Full-size RWD) : Holden

]]> By: da_nippon http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-86996 da_nippon Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:11:30 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-86996 In that case, GM must be trying to hide the shame of using such inferior engineering. Per GM's press release, they dare not mention the stigma of being associated with the previous Delta platforms designed by GM Daewoo. One wonders why control was passed to Opel instead. . There's no way the American/Korean compact cars will ever approach the level of quality and bang-for-the-buck that Japanese manufacturers can offer. No wonder the Chinese love to form JV to build Japanese cars. That's why Corollas are all over the road, and the latest Corolla Premium is even coveted. In that case, GM must be trying to hide the shame of using such inferior engineering. Per GM’s press release, they dare not mention the stigma of being associated with the previous Delta platforms designed by GM Daewoo. One wonders why control was passed to Opel instead.
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There’s no way the American/Korean compact cars will ever approach the level of quality and bang-for-the-buck that Japanese manufacturers can offer. No wonder the Chinese love to form JV to build Japanese cars. That’s why Corollas are all over the road, and the latest Corolla Premium is even coveted.

]]> By: I_Hate_China http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-86519 I_Hate_China Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:38:59 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-86519 > they are using the new, designed by OPEL, Delta II chassis for the new Cruze. It is not another Pinifarina/Daewoo collaborative design. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Delta_platform . "The new version of the Delta architecture, dubbed Delta II, is currently being prepared by GM-Daewoo." -Wikipedia . Delta II is a GM Daewoo chassis, Cruze is a GM Daewoo engineered and designed vehicle launching first in Korea in November this year, full 6 montsh before it shows up in Europe and full one year before US launch. > they are using the new, designed by OPEL, Delta II chassis for the new Cruze. It is not another Pinifarina/Daewoo collaborative design.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Delta_platform
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“The new version of the Delta architecture, dubbed Delta II, is currently being prepared by GM-Daewoo.” -Wikipedia
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Delta II is a GM Daewoo chassis, Cruze is a GM Daewoo engineered and designed vehicle launching first in Korea in November this year, full 6 montsh before it shows up in Europe and full one year before US launch.

]]> By: da_nippon http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85632 da_nippon Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:00:10 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-85632 Wrong. GM thought the Daewoo-based Lancetti was too poorly designed, thus, they are using the new, designed by OPEL, Delta II chassis for the new Cruze. It is not another Pinifarina/Daewoo collaborative design. . It was sold as the Optra in Japan, and it failed miserably. What a horrible car. Who'd buy such a car when you can get a Daihatsu Materia for a similar price? It's only ¥1m. Wrong. GM thought the Daewoo-based Lancetti was too poorly designed, thus, they are using the new, designed by OPEL, Delta II chassis for the new Cruze. It is not another Pinifarina/Daewoo collaborative design.
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It was sold as the Optra in Japan, and it failed miserably. What a horrible car. Who’d buy such a car when you can get a Daihatsu Materia for a similar price? It’s only ¥1m.

]]> By: I_Hate_China http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85142 I_Hate_China Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:39:19 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-85142 Cruze is the third-gen Lacetti(GM Daewoo J300); it is the new Lacetti, not its replacement. Cruze is the third-gen Lacetti(GM Daewoo J300); it is the new Lacetti, not its replacement.

]]> By: mark http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/comment-page-1/#comment-83703 mark Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:47:16 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/09/08/chevrolet-cruze-spotted-again/#comment-83703 I saw this car I think whilst testing another car on a highway. I saw this car I think whilst testing another car on a highway.

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