Comments on: Geelys Rolls Royce – dateline 2011

By: mememe

mememe — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:42:03 +0000

Thank you dogtucker for your reply, I see what you mean and I do agree, I think SAIC is the best bet here. But mind you there, Geely is doing everything to renovate its image, so everything you said there may be rectified in the future, but to make it big on global arena is very hard I guess but maybe they can make it big in China.

By: dogtucker

dogtucker — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:09:12 +0000

Mememememememe,
Im trying to say that the european (read German in this case)manufacturers have a long history of quality and excellent engineering which has been part of the German culture for centuries, they also have a certain amount of understated ‘class’ about their design and execution which Geeley will never have.
The Chinese car industry is at present on only three goals, make as many as they can, as much as they can and bring out so many new models to confuse the public and themselves, with this type of in house ‘culture’ there is little hope to survive let alone challenge any serious ‘upmarket’ makes.
Just look at the Geely lineup, apart from being very boring, there quality is very poor, cheap ill fitting plastic interiors, poor panel fits, very basic and ordinary drives etc etc.
As you say in your above epistle “Geely’s lineup may be formidable at the Beijing auto show but delivering the products is a different story all together, is it financially feasible for Geely to deliver all the promises and carrying out everything as planned ?” I think that your comments show that you agree with me.
And to sum up based on a recent CNN programe on China their summary comment was “There is a lot of money in China, but very little class” I think that there may be a slight possibilty one or 2 Chinese manufacturers who may challenge RR, BMW or some of the other cliches in the distant future but Im sure Geely wont be one of these.
The Americans havent, the Japanese have, no one one else has.

By: HAL

HAL — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:47:17 +0000

The Geely 08 line up was fantastic, but it was also a PR nightmare! Too many models launched at the same time, the press didnt know what to write about! On the other hand, it shows that Geely are very eager to lift their brand from being ‘cheap’ to being a mid weight fighter in China.

By: mememe

mememe — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:38:06 +0000

Aron said Geely’s lineup was formidable, dogtucker said it is culturally impossible. I don’t know who is wrong and right but it is very hard to predict the future. Geely’s lineup may be formidable at the Beijing auto show but delivering the products is a different story all together, is it financially feasible for Geely to deliver all the promises and carrying out everything as planned ? And to Dogtucker, can you please elaborate more on what you said about “culturally impossible” , you mean Geely business philosophy or you’re trying to say something else ? Looking forward to hearing your reply.

By: aron

aron — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:42:20 +0000

Did you guys miss out on Geely’s 2008 Beijing Auto Show offerings? If so, I guess it’s understandable, but their line up was quite formidable.

By: HAL

HAL — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:45:41 +0000

I personally believe that Geely have been pushing their cheaper cars for too long, where as Chery have been moving away from the cheaper end of the market with gusto.

By: dogtucker

dogtucker — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:05:46 +0000

There is with Geely’s culture, which may or may not reflect on the whole population.

By: aron

aron — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:27:01 +0000

So.. there’s something inherent in Chinese culture that prevents anything of “high class”?

By: dogtucker

dogtucker — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:41:16 +0000

Remember my old adage about making honey out of dog excreta? Geely will NEVER meet ‘high class’ euro/BMW standards its culturally impossible! This example of their current thinking just goes to highlight the fact.