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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler-Chery JV to end, talks on Chery buy outs</title>
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		<title>By: jimbam</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hosang so wong. Big three will turn the corner, maybe in chapter 11 but they will. Just want to clear the air. What does the PRC or Chey do in the way of retirement programs for the worker? Nada (nothing). You will see adjustments for sure but what is in the wings at GM and Ford will make petrol a thing of the past and the rest of the world will once again be forced to copy. Most american cars (and jap ones) will go well over 125,000 miles without a major repair. The BAM I have before I transplanted us power in it wouldn&#039;t gop 100 km&#039;s without crashing. So how many miles and years does the average chinese car go before it dies? 500 km&#039;s? American junkyards are filled with import shit labels that have come here cheap and died: Yugo, Daewoo, Opel just to name a few. So if the Chinese want to come I say come. But you won&#039;t last 2 years without a good, no great network and a dependable car. Also if a Chinese car does come to the US there won&#039;t be the tariffs the PRC has placed on US brands...I bet if the same Ford I buy doesn&#039;t cost 2x as much in Beijing there would be an outcry to protect the Chinese carmakers. Bottom line don&#039;t gloat unless you are willing to really have free trade. There is a rason why the US worker is still the most productive and QA minded in the world. That&#039;s the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosang so wong. Big three will turn the corner, maybe in chapter 11 but they will. Just want to clear the air. What does the PRC or Chey do in the way of retirement programs for the worker? Nada (nothing). You will see adjustments for sure but what is in the wings at GM and <a title="Ford" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/changan-ford">Ford</a> will make petrol a thing of the past and the rest of the world will once again be forced to copy. Most american cars (and jap ones) will go well over 125,000 miles without a major repair. The BAM I have before I transplanted us power in it wouldn&#8217;t gop 100 km&#8217;s without crashing. So how many miles and years does the average chinese car go before it dies? 500 km&#8217;s? American junkyards are filled with import shit labels that have come here cheap and died: Yugo, Daewoo, Opel just to name a few. So if the Chinese want to come I say come. But you won&#8217;t last 2 years without a good, no great network and a dependable car. Also if a Chinese car does come to the US there won&#8217;t be the tariffs the PRC has placed on US brands&#8230;I bet if the same <a title="Ford" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/changan-ford">Ford</a> I buy doesn&#8217;t cost 2x as much in Beijing there would be an outcry to protect the Chinese carmakers. Bottom line don&#8217;t gloat unless you are willing to really have free trade. There is a rason why the US worker is still the most productive and QA minded in the world. That&#8217;s the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Hosang</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2008/12/10/chrysler-chery-jv-to-end-talks-on-chery-buy-outs/comment-page-1/#comment-125323</link>
		<dc:creator>Hosang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ash,

It confirms what I mentioned on the last post about Changan. Believe that a least one part of Chrysler Group will be taken by Chery. The 3 Americans are approaching as much as they can from the Chinese Brands. Chrysler is right now working with two possibilities: Chery, Great Wall and Dongfeng, and we have not consider which others they have met already.

Will be a good business for the Chinese Industry. Believe that if this estimate runs to a concrete conclusion, in not more than 8 years there will not be any American Independent Carmaker anymore. Because the selling of the brands would much probably just adjust the problems of cash flow they have for the next 8 to 10 months.

Best regards,

J.I.Hosang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ash,</p>
<p>It confirms what I mentioned on the last post about Changan. Believe that a least one part of Chrysler Group will be taken by <a title="Chery" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/chery">Chery</a>. The 3 Americans are approaching as much as they can from the Chinese Brands. Chrysler is right now working with two possibilities: <a title="Chery" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/chery">Chery</a>, Great Wall and <a title="Dongfeng" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/dongfeng-automobile-company">Dongfeng</a>, and we have not consider which others they have met already.</p>
<p>Will be a good business for the Chinese Industry. Believe that if this estimate runs to a concrete conclusion, in not more than 8 years there will not be any American Independent Carmaker anymore. Because the selling of the brands would much probably just adjust the problems of cash flow they have for the next 8 to 10 months.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>J.I.Hosang</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe he means Chrysler?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe he means Chrysler?!</p>
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		<title>By: dogtucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogtucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;Chevrolet&#039; brand?????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;<a title="Chevrolet" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/cherolet-china">Chevrolet</a>&#8217; brand?????????????</p>
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		<title>By: HAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chevrolet brand is seriously tainted with their &#039;interesting&#039; history of financial disasters, if it wasnt for rental firms and government agencies buying their vehicles, they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago.
However, their sub-brands such as Jeep, do have a lot of potential, which maybe why they have signed up with Great Wall - is their any chance that Great Wall Motors will start producing Jeeps in China, the Wrangler looks to have been well received in China, but if it was produced in China it could be sold at a much lower price and as a &#039;fashion item&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a title="Chevrolet" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/cherolet-china">Chevrolet</a> brand is seriously tainted with their &#8216;interesting&#8217; history of financial disasters, if it wasnt for rental firms and government agencies buying their vehicles, they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago.<br />
However, their sub-brands such as Jeep, do have a lot of potential, which maybe why they have signed up with Great Wall &#8211; is their any chance that Great Wall Motors will start producing Jeeps in China, the Wrangler looks to have been well received in China, but if it was produced in China it could be sold at a much lower price and as a &#8216;fashion item&#8217;</p>
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