Comments on: News Shocker: VW to kill of Santana production in 2012 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:17:35 +0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: comp_286 http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-998074 comp_286 Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:18:00 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-998074 These "foolish" drivers were mostly taught driving in VW Santana. These “foolish” drivers were mostly taught driving in VW Santana.

]]> By: Al http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-855498 Al Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:38:09 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-855498 The VW santana is an impressive car for the price. Shanghai VW is planning to replace the santana with the smaller lavida, hoping to recreate the success of the santana. however, the santana, as someone else has stated, make up a majority of sales, and shanghai volkswagen can seriously lose a large chunk of market shares if they end production of the santana. The VW santana is an impressive car for the price. Shanghai VW is planning to replace the santana with the smaller lavida, hoping to recreate the success of the santana. however, the santana, as someone else has stated, make up a majority of sales, and shanghai volkswagen can seriously lose a large chunk of market shares if they end production of the santana.

]]> By: Mark Wayne http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-269192 Mark Wayne Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:23:06 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-269192 The only reason is the profit. 25+ yrs after its first adoption into China, SVW has cumulated bunches of capitals. Sale price topped 200,000 RMB initially, and went down to less 70,000 RMB last year. Through its product cycle, investment and equipment depreciations were already gone 10+ yrs ago, Which means 70,000 RMB – material and labor costs (20,000-30,000 RMB) equals gross profit that SVW earned. That’s why SVW experienced a hard time on making such “phase-out” decision, as 60% profits of SVW comes from Model Santana exclusively. Mark Wayne marco.w07@gmail.com The only reason is the profit.
25+ yrs after its first adoption into China, SVW has cumulated bunches of capitals.
Sale price topped 200,000 RMB initially, and went down to less 70,000 RMB last year.
Through its product cycle, investment and equipment depreciations were already gone 10+ yrs ago,
Which means 70,000 RMB – material and labor costs (20,000-30,000 RMB) equals gross profit that SVW earned.
That’s why SVW experienced a hard time on making such “phase-out” decision, as 60% profits of SVW comes from Model Santana exclusively.

Mark Wayne
marco.w07@gmail.com

]]> By: VW-fan http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-181357 VW-fan Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:51:38 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-181357 From the Chinese auto portals - I saw it too. I have heard that SAIC VW are still planning to dump Santana production, but are working on a new 'cheap car' for China and developing markets. The Passat is still too expensive for cab use, and VW dont want to keep the Santana in production for too long. Keep watching the Brazilian market, a car will be seen soon enough. From the Chinese auto portals – I saw it too. I have heard that SAIC VW are still planning to dump Santana production, but are working on a new ‘cheap car’ for China and developing markets. The Passat is still too expensive for cab use, and VW dont want to keep the Santana in production for too long.

Keep watching the Brazilian market, a car will be seen soon enough.

]]> By: mark http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-181355 mark Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:38:36 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-181355 Where did this news come from? Shanghai VW are categorically denying it! Where did this news come from? Shanghai VW are categorically denying it!

]]> By: Hunxuer http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173965 Hunxuer Sun, 17 May 2009 11:15:15 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173965 Seems to be a BMW and not a Santana involved in this one http://msn.ynet.com/view.jsp?oid=51596619&pageno=5 Seems to be a BMW and not a Santana involved in this one

http://msn.ynet.com/view.jsp?oid=51596619&pageno=5

]]> By: Hunxuer http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173887 Hunxuer Sun, 17 May 2009 03:56:25 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173887 "Still, some people say if you take all the Santana’s off the road tomorrow, then China’s car accident rate will fall substantially." OR not. Considering 90% of drivers in China each have the cumulative driving experience of 1 year and have been "taught" in unrealistic scenarios (with no traffic present) and are "me" generation, selfish road pigs with zero sense of common courtesy, I'd say the accident numbers will still be sky high. “Still, some people say if you take all the Santana’s off the road tomorrow, then China’s car accident rate will fall substantially.”

OR not. Considering 90% of drivers in China each have the cumulative driving experience of 1 year and have been “taught” in unrealistic scenarios (with no traffic present) and are “me” generation, selfish road pigs with zero sense of common courtesy, I’d say the accident numbers will still be sky high.

]]> By: dragin http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173810 dragin Sat, 16 May 2009 21:35:18 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173810 This retirement of a popular model by VW is reminiscent of the retirement of the well-loved Beetle in the U.S.. If the Vietnamese are smart, they will do what Mexico did and feed a lucrative black market that is sure to rise up across their northern border. This retirement of a popular model by VW is reminiscent of the retirement of the well-loved Beetle in the U.S.. If the Vietnamese are smart, they will do what Mexico did and feed a lucrative black market that is sure to rise up across their northern border.

]]> By: mark http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173714 mark Sat, 16 May 2009 13:18:38 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173714 The latest version is the Vista not the 3000. The latest version is the Vista not the 3000.

]]> By: erik van ingen schenau http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173678 erik van ingen schenau Sat, 16 May 2009 10:40:39 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173678 two reasons to maintain production: 1. it is still selling very well 2. in this way it keeps the VW production figures high one reason to stop production: 1. each sold car nearly doesn't give any profit two reasons to maintain production:
1. it is still selling very well
2. in this way it keeps the VW production figures high
one reason to stop production:
1. each sold car nearly doesn’t give any profit

]]> By: jason http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/05/15/news-shocker-vw-to-kill-of-santana-production-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-173430 jason Fri, 15 May 2009 14:47:31 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=6614#comment-173430 why 2012? should kill it early. why 2012? should kill it early.

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