Comments on: Chairman Hu’s Red Flag Limo

By: nothing but truth

nothing but truth — Thu, 27 May 2010 06:46:36 +0000

Have you ever been to China before or have you ever seen the Chinese automobile industry?
I will teach you a better slang that we use in China. It is called Go and see.
Now it is time for you to jump out of your little circle and to know the truth.

By: jack

jack — Wed, 05 May 2010 19:30:59 +0000

shut up

By: jake

jake — Wed, 05 May 2010 19:30:09 +0000

it is not ugly you fucking bitch

By: mss

mss — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:26:13 +0000

Its an ugly car and a waste of money. Why not buy a Rolls Royce or Maybach. That car is ugly, ugly, ugly.

By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:31:44 +0000

No. It is “京”, and abbreviation from Beijing(北京).

By: dogtucker

dogtucker — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:44:32 +0000

No wonder they built these in secret!

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:20:26 +0000

Tekdemon – There are many scientific researchs that cannot be done on earth. At the very least, earth is not an ideal environment for certain “peaceful” experiments. Of course, there are other peaceful reasons space exploration offers beside an unique environment for scientific experiments. …Some of today most significant technologies used in commerce are rooted in the space program.

As for a large V12 engine block, there are applications too. Not necessary for retail used. Some of the concept cars with extreme “this and that” does not always make it to the commerce and mass production, however, there are use for these concepts…

By: Leo

Leo — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:22:50 +0000

I think Russians did much better design job with restyling of their Volga then Hongqi. There is no point of copying Rolls-Royce architecture. They should have kept styling cues of the original Hongqi.

http://www.cardesign.ru/articles/newcars/2006/09/25/1828/

By: erik van ingen schenau

erik van ingen schenau — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:39:17 +0000

Sorry, the link is not working, here it is again:
http://www.hongqiche.com/bbs/ShowPost.asp?id=793

By: erik van ingen schenau

erik van ingen schenau — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:37:18 +0000

Hello Ash,
I am a bit surprised that you regard the CA7600J as a new car; you are correct when you say that this is the 2005 (Shanghai Salon) concept HQD (later named HQE) with a FAW self-developed V12 engine (engine shown at the Beijing 2008 Salon). The main difference is that the CA7600J is armored.
Since 2007 this new paradecar is developed, 17 test models have been built. Seven were to see at the Oct. 1st parade: 4 black and 3 blue (for the press).
The CA7600J is built on the Lincoln platform. Originally the idea was to develop the concept just like it was, but the Chinese leadership insisted on a car with the old, traditional Hongqi front end. There was even a more traditional counter-designed Hongqi (see http://www.hongqiche.com/bbs/ShowPost.asp?id=793) designed in 2007 against the HQE which was regarded by some designers as too modern for a Hongqi.
In early September 2009 the same website Hongiche already showed a photo-shop as how the CA7600J would be, which is as we know now, quite correct.
The V12 engine is also developed for the big SUV which was shown at the same Beijing 2008 Salon.
I don´t see what is wrong to develop an engine for a small series of cars (the V12 is simply a double V6).

By: Brenda Hall

Brenda Hall — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:53:36 +0000

Perhaps it takes a V12 with a massive amount of power that can engage faster than most ‘electric cars’ to not only handle the weight of the vehicles (I’m sure it was armoured even though President Hu Jintao and Lieutenant General Fang Fenghui both opted to be physically visible via the roof portal), but to move them very quickly from any negative situation should that have been needed.

By: tekdemon

tekdemon — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:59:30 +0000

The point of the V12 isn’t whether it makes sense to make your own V12 design-they basically commissioned it for reasons of national pride, kind of like why they have a space program. There’s about zero actual value of sending people into space other than to prove that you can do it
So the V12 in this car exists for the same reason China has a space program-just to prove that it can be done.
And on the more practical side of it, it’s also a nice halo effect for the rest of FAW’s lineup even though these cars were probably all hand built for exceedingly large amounts of money per car.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:06:23 +0000

It’s got the backend of a Rolls, but the front end very much reminds me of the old Austin 1100.
Take a look here http://www.the1100club.com/

By: dragin

dragin — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:29:48 +0000

Isn’t this the CA12GV V-12 that was self-developed in 2007, and produced from last April?
If so, in today’s climate, it’s good to keep the hood closed…..

By: Ant

Ant — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:38:42 +0000

What a strange looking car. From the side and the back, it looks quite modern … a mix of Rolls Royce and giant Hyundai Equus … from the front, an old Volga. Very odd.

By: james

james — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:02:34 +0000

my eyes aren’t what they used to be. what is the prefix on the president’s car? is it 总 from zongtong?

By: l __ _ _Ha te __C hin a

l __ _ _Ha te __C hin a — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:50:33 +0000

I was under the impression that Hongqi’s V12 engine was from Toyota Century, was it not??

It doesn’t make sense to develop a V12 when there is very little market for it. It it was an electric drive that would have been impressive, but not a V12 in today’s world.