Comments on: Brilliance signs up with booze maker to produce engines? http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/ Explaining the Chinese Car Industry Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:17:35 +0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dogtucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219957 dogtucker Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:59:36 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219957 Who is this racist ass hole bitch thing?? Keep your ridiculous comments and foul tongue too yourself! I think that you have got it wrong- currently the USA wouldnt exist along with its dying auto industry without China! You sound like a typical stereotyped naive,ignorant big mouthed Americano rednecked pickup driver complete with a wife beater shirt and basketball cap back to front on your cro - magnon forehead. And no, Im not being racist-only factual. Who is this racist ass hole bitch thing?? Keep your ridiculous comments and foul tongue too yourself!
I think that you have got it wrong- currently the USA wouldnt exist along with its dying auto industry without China!
You sound like a typical stereotyped naive,ignorant big mouthed Americano rednecked pickup driver complete with a wife beater shirt and basketball cap back to front on your cro – magnon forehead. And no, Im not being racist-only factual.

]]> By: lol http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219944 lol Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:48:38 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219944 oh come on don't take it out on the chinese fools, it's not their fault that GM and Chrysler are like beggars now. are americans willing to buy GM and Chrysler cars ? oh silly me why need to ask that question, the bankuptcy and the bailout answer the questions already. the starving chinese are so mentally fucked up to keep on buying GM cars. hey did i say everything right, bitch ? oh come on don’t take it out on the chinese fools, it’s not their fault that GM and Chrysler are like beggars now. are americans willing to buy GM and Chrysler cars ? oh silly me why need to ask that question, the bankuptcy and the bailout answer the questions already. the starving chinese are so mentally fucked up to keep on buying GM cars.

hey did i say everything right, bitch ?

]]> By: Ed http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219902 Ed Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:06:39 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219902 A majority of China's electricity does NOT come from coal. Don't talk blindly if you don't know what you're talking about. A majority of China’s electricity does NOT come from coal. Don’t talk blindly if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

]]> By: Ed http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219901 Ed Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:03:44 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219901 That's nothing compared to what Chinese automakers are doing. American failures... That’s nothing compared to what Chinese automakers are doing. American failures…

]]> By: lol http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219726 lol Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:42:28 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219726 "Better off strapping two tonka trunks to my feet… safer" Do that and take pictures then show us, we'll believe it when we see it. “Better off strapping two tonka trunks to my feet… safer”

Do that and take pictures then show us, we’ll believe it when we see it.

]]> By: Juls http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219706 Juls Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:31:30 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219706 I have one qualm with electric/hybrid: The energy you will use to power your car ultimately depends on a primary power source. Say you drive an electric car in China, are you OK consuming electricity that is almost entirely produced from burning coal? So you have a few choices: electricity produced from fossil fuel power plants (either oil, coal, gaz etc) with varying degrees of pollution, the worst I guess being coal and the best being natural gaz. electricity produced from nuclear fission power plants. There's clearly different stances on that. elctricity produced from renewable energy power plants (wind turbines, dams), with again varying degrees of impact on the environment... (i.e. fancy sucking power from the 3 gorges dam?) That's an alltogether different pickle, and I have no idea what's worse in China: a combustion engine or a hybrid/full electric ultimately burning coal? I have one qualm with electric/hybrid:

The energy you will use to power your car ultimately depends on a primary power source. Say you drive an electric car in China, are you OK consuming electricity that is almost entirely produced from burning coal?

So you have a few choices:

electricity produced from fossil fuel power plants (either oil, coal, gaz etc) with varying degrees of pollution, the worst I guess being coal and the best being natural gaz.

electricity produced from nuclear fission power plants. There’s clearly different stances on that.

elctricity produced from renewable energy power plants (wind turbines, dams), with again varying degrees of impact on the environment… (i.e. fancy sucking power from the 3 gorges dam?)

That’s an alltogether different pickle, and I have no idea what’s worse in China: a combustion engine or a hybrid/full electric ultimately burning coal?

]]> By: Barney http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219694 Barney Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:25:46 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219694 I would happily drive an electric/hybrid car that doesnt look like crap. Currently hybrids are in the realm of the weirdy-beardies with the Civic and the Pious, then you have the gigantic SUV's that have hybrid systems for apparently zero reason. When will a company produce a car/SUV that is hybrid, and is focused towards the average guy? I would happily drive an electric/hybrid car that doesnt look like crap.

Currently hybrids are in the realm of the weirdy-beardies with the Civic and the Pious, then you have the gigantic SUV’s that have hybrid systems for apparently zero reason.

When will a company produce a car/SUV that is hybrid, and is focused towards the average guy?

]]> By: Shaun http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219684 Shaun Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:01:02 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219684 Nice looking car! Nice looking car!

]]> By: dragin http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219682 dragin Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:55:18 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219682 This Wuliangye-Brilliance tie-up is not news. Here's a Shanghai Daily piece going back to mid-2006: The alcohol giant (Wuliangye) announced last Tuesday (8/15/06) its subsidiary, China Push Group International Co Ltd, plans to spend 384 million yuan (US$48 million) for 46.5 percent of Xinhua Diesel Co Ltd, an affiliate of Brilliance Automobile Go Ltd. Xinhua would then be able to turn out 100,000 vehicles annually in addition to 500,000 units of engines, generating additional sales revenue of 8 billion yuan annually. Brilliance has set a target of an extra 10 billion yuan in sales by 2010 for Xinhua. This Wuliangye-Brilliance tie-up is not news. Here’s a Shanghai Daily piece going back to mid-2006:

The alcohol giant (Wuliangye) announced last Tuesday (8/15/06) its subsidiary, China Push Group International Co Ltd, plans to spend 384 million yuan (US$48 million) for 46.5 percent of Xinhua Diesel Co Ltd, an affiliate of Brilliance Automobile Go Ltd. Xinhua would then be able to turn out 100,000 vehicles annually in addition to 500,000 units of engines, generating additional sales revenue of 8 billion yuan annually. Brilliance has set a target of an extra 10 billion yuan in sales by 2010 for Xinhua.

]]> By: Juls http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219673 Juls Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:22:07 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219673 Irrelevant conversation. The whole eco-car thing is another marketing ploy at juicing the masses. China, after consideration of the honorable effort to reduce C02 emissions already stated, will still double its emissions by 2020. This is mostly industry related, so what car you drive doesnt matter much... But am totally for it from a conscious consumer approach. Feels good to drive clean and it keeps your city and neighborhood clean. Having said that, you got to give credit for the Chinese government's full acceptance of the climate change issue and their reasonable approach in takling this problem. The same can not necessarily be said fo the US gov. Irrelevant conversation. The whole eco-car thing is another marketing ploy at juicing the masses. China, after consideration of the honorable effort to reduce C02 emissions already stated, will still double its emissions by 2020. This is mostly industry related, so what car you drive doesnt matter much…

But am totally for it from a conscious consumer approach. Feels good to drive clean and it keeps your city and neighborhood clean.

Having said that, you got to give credit for the Chinese government’s full acceptance of the climate change issue and their reasonable approach in takling this problem. The same can not necessarily be said fo the US gov.

]]> By: dogtucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219669 dogtucker Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:05:16 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219669 Wot are u talking about Ed??? Wot the hell is this about - diesel engines or some unnecessary jab at the poor downtrodden yankeeees!? Plus Im not an americano so dont prejudge and also what utter crap is this - "while China knows what their main focus is, while protecting the environment at the same time" And that last statement is the only thing right in your poorly judged reply "I suppose I’m the arrogant one??!" Wot are u talking about Ed??? Wot the hell is this about – diesel engines or some unnecessary jab at the poor downtrodden yankeeees!?
Plus Im not an americano so dont prejudge and also what utter crap is this – “while China knows what their main focus is, while protecting the environment at the same time”
And that last statement is the only thing right in your poorly judged reply “I suppose I’m the arrogant one??!”

]]> By: bitchmeansfemaledog http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219662 bitchmeansfemaledog Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:18:06 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219662 Not all Americans. You dumb retard! You can't say that crap. Ford just released new American eco-boost engines... Keep your Chinese garbage! Better off strapping two tonka trunks to my feet... safer Not all Americans. You dumb retard!
You can’t say that crap. Ford just released new American eco-boost engines… Keep your Chinese garbage! Better off strapping two tonka trunks to my feet… safer

]]> By: Ed http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219658 Ed Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:06:32 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219658 It's the kind of attitude Americans lack and need. China is actually trying to protect the environment instead of driving 6.0l SUVs and fatass trucks when they clearly don't have the need to. America is the one pointing their dirty fingers at others, while China knows what their main focus is, while protecting the environment at the same time. I suppose I'm the arrogant one??! It’s the kind of attitude Americans lack and need. China is actually trying to protect the environment instead of driving 6.0l SUVs and fatass trucks when they clearly don’t have the need to. America is the one pointing their dirty fingers at others, while China knows what their main focus is, while protecting the environment at the same time. I suppose I’m the arrogant one??!

]]> By: bitchmeansfemaledog http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219638 bitchmeansfemaledog Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:46:42 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219638 Crappy engines! Crappy engines!

]]> By: dogtucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219635 dogtucker Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:32:12 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219635 "Doesnt need to"-what sort of arrogance is that? “Doesnt need to”-what sort of arrogance is that?

]]> By: Ed http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219579 Ed Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:39:46 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219579 the article made a mistake, it's actually a 2.4l engine making 130kw, and China doesn't need to, since their current focus is on electric and alternative fuel source engines. the article made a mistake, it’s actually a 2.4l engine making 130kw, and China doesn’t need to, since their current focus is on electric and alternative fuel source engines.

]]> By: Learners Test http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219370 Learners Test Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:42:42 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219370 It's not a bad looking car! It’s not a bad looking car!

]]> By: dogtucker http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219362 dogtucker Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:49:25 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219362 A 3 litre at 130kw is hardly worth the effort. Wonder when the hell China is going to wake up to modern diesels!! Hardly great news at all Ed!! and not very 'Brilliance' either! A 3 litre at 130kw is hardly worth the effort. Wonder when the hell China is going to wake up to modern diesels!! Hardly great news at all Ed!! and not very ‘Brilliance’ either!

]]> By: Ed http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219299 Ed Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:37:36 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219299 Go Brilliance! Great news. Go Brilliance! Great news.

]]> By: menolikechina http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219269 menolikechina Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:26:30 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219269 Great more crappy engines made by retards. Great more crappy engines made by retards.

]]> By: lol http://www.chinacartimes.com/2009/12/01/brilliance-signs-up-with-booze-maker-to-produce-engines/comment-page-1/#comment-219264 lol Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:05:00 +0000 http://www.chinacartimes.com/?p=8856#comment-219264 rofl rofl

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