Comments on: BYD SUV Revealed! – Its not a Lexus RV, its not a Lexus RV…

By: Ed

Ed — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:12:00 +0000

I’m not angry either, just “having fun” with you.

By: Ed

Ed — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:11:20 +0000

You do realize that the Chinese media is not like the Western media?? They don’t make up, exaggerate, lie, and edit stories to deliberately paint another country in a negative image. It’s so ironic how you live in China, yet you don’t know ANYTHING about China. When it comes to the U.S., there is no competition.

By: Ed

Ed — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:06:07 +0000

When have I ever said China is equal to the world??! I was replying just because if a brand doesn’t have a huge amount of market share in the U.S. doesn’t mean they are not a world-class brand. Lenovo is at least one of the best PC brands, if not the best, and are you kidding??! Lenovo below HP??! Are you blind?? Insane?? HP is crap. I had a HP laptop and it broke within the first 2 months, which why I’m never buying HP again. A hefty price tag for a piece of garbage is unacceptable. In a recent study done in the U.S., Lenovo ranked first, while Acer, Compaq, HP and Dell ranked last. YOU are the one that assumes too much.

By: I H a t e C h i n a

I __ H a t e __ C h i n a — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:48:31 +0000

@ Head Honcho

> One question. What is a Lexus RV?

RV is a Chinese name for an SUV.

We call it SUV. Chinese call it RV.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:04:49 +0000

Yeah I have 500gb and 2.4ghz dual core. I have lots of graphics to deal with so I can’t go the way of a netbook but I like small size because I have to take it everywhere with me. A lightweight 13 inch that isn’t netbook power works for me.

My HTC is great for surfing the web other than the screen size. 2.8 inch is too small. Try the new opera browser. It is way faster for full web browsing. I think it is 10.0 beta.

By: CCT

CCT — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:40:48 +0000

main laptop is now a hasee netbook – 160gb hd, atom processor, 2gb RAM. Runs Win XP and Firefox fantastically, and sits in my bag and weighs no more than a textbook. The Lenovo’s are a bit big for my needs and I dont need a DVD drive for day to day stuff.

I had an external keyboard HTC, it was rather underpowered but great for texting/emailing – forget surfing the net on it though. Now I use a Motorola 3G affair.

Editing – maybe. Ill look into it.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:11:15 +0000

Do you have a HTC with an external keyboard? I am finding the keyboards only last about 8 months before they give out. Time to get the HD2 and skip the keyboard. The best laptop I ever had was a LG. Never had a problem with it. Until someone climbed in my balcony on the 5th floor on a rainy night and took it. I have had really bad luck with dell, HP, Compaq and Sony. Hard to find a smaller one that is built with quality and not a slow netbook. I looked at Lenovo but their 13 inch was too heavy.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:39:44 +0000

My typing is really bad. We really need an edit feature but maybe limit somehow to typo type editing. Is that possible?

By: lol

lol — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:11:01 +0000

angry elf lol

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:38:36 +0000

Again. I don’t know how we got off onto all Chinese products. I think the Angry Elf was pushing their are great Chinese companies and no one ever argued against it. To claim they are the best in the world is something else. Pretty difficult to prove of and brand anyway. Not sure there is any brand that really dominates all markets in all countries.

CCT. Isn’t the Lexus RX 330 the car you were saying this wasn’t? What is tthe Lexus RV? Is that what it is called in China?

By: CCT

CCT — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:09:09 +0000

Not wanting to further this argument any further, but I have two Lenovo’s and a Hasee PC’s, both are fantastic quality and are real work horses. The Hasee is brilliant considering it was so cheap. I might be tempted to buy a Chinese cellphone next time if there is something worth buying, I have used HTC in the past though. Most electronics in my house are Chinese too – Haier, Hisense etc etc.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:47:30 +0000

One question. What is a Lexus RV? Did they change it from RX? I thought the current model was RX 330 or something like that.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:01:47 +0000

Ed,
China doesn’t equal the world either. No one ever said US is the world. Maybe you were thinking that deep down but no one said it. You are thinking about things that were never said. Not by me anyway. You assume so much. It really seems like you watch too much tv. Read a book instead.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:59:35 +0000

Not bitter. Just having fun with you.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:59:10 +0000

Ed,
No one ever said there is no such thing as a Chinese company that is doing well and known world wide. We are getting so far off the original subject. Lets get back to where it started with you claiming that Chinese brand cars are so great and are dominating the world.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:57:28 +0000

Where is Lenovo reguarded at the best quality PC? Every report I have seen they are even below HP and usually in the middle of all the main brands. In China they might be reguarded as the top because none of the other brands ship much other than their bottom dollar machines in because of high taxes and China isn’t a huge consumer of high-end computers.

Ed,
I am noticing you are talking like all these Chinese brands are the best all over the world but the brands you keep saying are doing well in China or only dominating the Chinese market.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:32:48 +0000

Never said the US was everyting. In fact I have said many times I would never buy a US made car even. So what was your point again? I don’t even live in the US so come on. Make sure when you are making a point that it makes sense. I think you listen to the Chinese media too much and take US movies too seriously. TV isn’t real life.

I just don’t like to see over inflated egos pumping themselves up when they aren’t at the same level as the competition yet.

Maybe you should just get over it and admit you are an angry elf. Anyway Elf is my favorite Christmas movie.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:47:38 +0000

haha, you’re bitter because I hit your sore spot. The U.S. is not everything, get over it.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:44:28 +0000

You have once again proven my point. The U.S. does not equal to the world. Just because a company does not capture a great amount of market share in the U.S., or just because you think they don’t, doesn’t mean they are not a world class company. And Lenovo ranked first in various quality studies done in the U.S. and around the world, and a number of them even met military standrads. While Haier products’ quality at least matches other competitor’s products, if not surpasses them.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:38:11 +0000

@ Ed the angry Elf

“just because ignorant Americans don’t know them doesn’t mean they” So much anger or envy. Just relax dude.

@ Heand Honcho
I think Warren Buffet knows his business a lot better then you, otherwise, he wouldn’t have made billions off the BYD deal in just a year.

Dude read what I said before you try to come down on me for what I said. I said he has no morals. I didn’t say he doesn’t know business. Your comment has nothing to do with what I said. I never questioned his experience in business. It was yours I questioned and you didn’t even attempt to respond to that. Maybe you should just keep hiding it. Otherwise you might get laughed off of here.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:31:40 +0000

Ed,
I have no reason to lie. I have said many times. It was the worst driving car I have ever driven. I have driven some really old cars over 30 year old cars from the 70s and none of them drove that bad. I would take a 30 year old car piece of crap Ford over a BYD F0 anyday.

By: I H a t e C h i n a

I __ H a t e __ C h i n a — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:36:13 +0000

@ Ed

> Haier exports to all over the world

Mostly to 3rd world countries.

> including N.A. and Europe

Haier’s presence in the US is very small, I can testify. When I go shopping at places like Best Buy and even Walmart, Haier products are hard to spot(unlike Samsung and Sonys positioned at premier spots), unless you specifically look for them in the bottom shelves or in the corner somewhere. The fact that Haier brand is worth nothing in the US may stun Chinese who have never been to the US, but that’s the reality.

> BYD is the largest rechargeable battery maker in the world

As OEM battery supplier to first tier cellphone vendors like Nokia.

> They both have a huge impact on N.A. AND EUROPE.

Nokia is big in Europe, but Samsung, LG, and iPhone own US market. Nokia is a minor player in the US.

> You would know them unless you don’t know enough, and Lenovo is the 4th largest PC maker in the world.

Their sales volume comes mostly from Chinese domestic market. Lenovo is a tiny minor player in the US, with a smaller market share than non-selling Macs. Asus, the 4th ranking PC/laptop brand in the US, is like 10 times bigger than Lenovo.

> Their laptops and desktops are regarded as the best quality PCs.

Not here in the US.

By: I H a t e C h i n a

I __ H a t e __ C h i n a — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:02:08 +0000

Wall Street Journal joins BYD bashing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704240504574587001841865032.html

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:54:32 +0000

@ Heand Honcho
I think Warren Buffet knows his business a lot better then you, otherwise, he wouldn’t have made billions off the BYD deal in just a year.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:52:43 +0000

This is exactly my point. Haier exports to all over the world, including N.A. and Europe, BYD is the largest rechargeable battery maker in the world, and the second biggest battery maker. Most of Nokia and a number of cellphone batteries are made by BYD. They both have a huge impact on N.A. AND EUROPE. (By the way, the U.S. is NOT everything, just because ignorant Americans don’t know them doesn’t mean they are not a world-class company.)Huawei has businesses all over the world, and they are business partners with the largest telecom companies. You would know them unless you don’t know enough, and Lenovo is the 4th largest PC maker in the world. Their laptops and desktops are regarded as the best quality PCs. You don’t even know what you’re talking about.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:43:37 +0000

The brakes were working on the car, don’t lie. Otherwise, you would’ve crashed, they may not have been working well, but they were working, and yours is the only case I’ve ever heard. Nobody has the same problem, plus, I don’t even know if you’re telling the truth or not.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:25:48 +0000

What was he link for? I didn’t see the article if there was one related. Are you spamming to sell trucks?

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:42:28 +0000

I am near two of the factories so I have heard from things about how they do business. Lets just say their managment is on their own to do what they want. They can negotiate pricing on materials and often accept higher prices from suppliers if something is passed to them in an envelope. Even landlords that own the dorms their workers stay in have to pay someone to get the contract but they are allowed to charge extra to make up the difference. So seems pretty obvious Warren Buffet isn’t watching the books close enough there because they must be paying a little bit too much everywhere so some employees can pocket some extra cash.

By: I H a t e C h i n a

I __ H a t e __ C h i n a — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:55:57 +0000

@ Head Honcho

> I can’t make any comment on BYD batteries. If they do business anything like their cars, they don’t deserve to be listed there.

American MIT spin-off battery venture A123 accuses BYD of stealing its battery tech by hiring its technicians at its Chinese factory and threatens to sue BYD if its batteries make it to the US.

By: I H a t e C h i n a

I __ H a t e __ C h i n a — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:51:41 +0000

@ Ed

> Don’t be an idiot, and stop blabbering if you don’t have any knowledge. There are obvious world class Chinese companies like Haier, Lenovo, BYD(batteries), and Huawei.

Haier and BYD mean nothing in the US and most certainly in Europe. Haier specifically is a cheapo bargain brand in the US, and very few people even heard of BYD.

Lenovo’s reputation is a little better, but Lenovo’s not a major laptop vender in the US.

Huawei is a reputable corporation(A rarity in China), but it’s not a consumer brand and 99.99% of people aren’t aware of its name, only telecom people do.

The specific lack of world class Chinese brand puzzles many in the West.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:34:25 +0000

Ed,
I have been pretty open about my experience in China. It is only 7 years long total but I have seen a lot of things and I do live here in China. I am just curious if you are open enough to share your business experience in China. Do you work for a Chinese company?

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:18:47 +0000

Ed,
We aren’t talking about those companies. Yes there are a few good companies here obviously. We are talking about the ones with bad practices which out number the good ones at this point. I can’t make any comment on BYD batteries. If they do business anything like their cars , they don’t deserve to be listed there. I don’t know if that is true or not but hard to believe they belong in a list of good business practices.

By: Head Honcho

Head Honcho — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:15:39 +0000

All depends on your definitions of falling apart. Having more than 1 or 2 minor problems is falling apart to me. Brakes not working is falling apart for sure since it is such a huge safety issue besides. That car was not safe to drive.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:57:51 +0000

Don’t be an idiot, and stop blabbering if you don’t have any knowledge. There are obvious world class Chinese companies like Haier, Lenovo, BYD(batteries), and Huawei.

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:43:44 +0000

Pretty much every car has some kind of problems even in the first few month, but NO brand new Chinese car has FALLEN APART in the first 6 months.

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