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	<title>Comments on: Guizhou driver upset at being stopped, beats up journalist.</title>
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		<title>By: saltie</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-285813</link>
		<dc:creator>saltie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 06:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi hamid

so you are not interessted in trying to get our money back together?
i did not get a feedback on my first mail to you last week...  :-(
please reply, thx

any others cheated by them and wants to join to try getting back our money?

best regards
roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi hamid</p>
<p>so you are not interessted in trying to get our money back together?<br />
i did not get a feedback on my first mail to you last week&#8230;  <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
please reply, thx</p>
<p>any others cheated by them and wants to join to try getting back our money?</p>
<p>best regards<br />
roger</p>
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		<title>By: hamid</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-283091</link>
		<dc:creator>hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paid $2400 dollars to this company for the supply of laptops and since they confirmed receipt of the money they have ceased to reply my mails or take my calls, please can you help me find how to report this matter to the guiyang city police. The company name is Guiyang Nanming Jiarenfang Trading Co., Ltd, Nanming District, Guiyang City, Moon Rock Road, Building 8, No. 8 Dongyuan Village. Their contact persons are mr Justin zhang and kayla li with trade manager ids as follows, jiarenfang and cn220042165. Payment was made into this account, Account Name:Zhufang Deng, account: 45523 12018 80294 899, swift code :bkchcnbj73c, BankName: Bank of china Guiyang branch . Please give us the contact to the police in this region and see how you can help us recover this money. This attitude is terrible and is creating a bad image for alibaba and the chinese business community, it is important that something drastic be done about this kind of people except if you want people to stop doing business with alibaba and china.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paid $2400 dollars to this company for the supply of laptops and since they confirmed receipt of the money they have ceased to reply my mails or take my calls, please can you help me find how to report this matter to the guiyang city police. The company name is Guiyang Nanming Jiarenfang Trading Co., Ltd, Nanming District, Guiyang City, Moon Rock Road, Building 8, No. 8 Dongyuan Village. Their contact persons are mr Justin zhang and kayla li with trade manager ids as follows, jiarenfang and cn220042165. Payment was made into this account, Account Name:Zhufang Deng, account: 45523 12018 80294 899, swift code :bkchcnbj73c, BankName: Bank of china Guiyang branch . Please give us the contact to the police in this region and see how you can help us recover this money. This attitude is terrible and is creating a bad image for alibaba and the chinese business community, it is important that something drastic be done about this kind of people except if you want people to stop doing business with alibaba and china.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-258626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We all must wait at this point&quot;?! That just shows how much you know about Chinese cars, just keep your mouth shut, don&#039;t embarrass yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We all must wait at this point&#8221;?! That just shows how much you know about Chinese cars, just keep your mouth shut, don&#8217;t embarrass yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-258276</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still don&#039;t know anything about cars.  You only care what country it is made in.   Eventually there will be a great car out of China but we all must wait at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still don&#8217;t know anything about cars.  You only care what country it is made in.   Eventually there will be a great car out of China but we all must wait at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-258244</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I have written a comment about this before, but somehow, it did not show up. 

Yes, I am in Canada as of now, and has only been here for a few months, I do not plan to live here, and probably will go back to China soon. I have driven more Chinese cars in my life than you have posted comments about them, and seriously, I would prefer this over a GM or Toyota, at least I know that the gas pedal won&#039;t get stuck, and the brakes won&#039;t fail all of a sudden.

If you didn&#039;t know, there is something called TRAVELING, yes, how new and exciting. Just because I&#039;m not in China right now doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not Chinese, neither does it mean I did not live my whole life in China.

I would love it if you actually ignored me instead of biting  my tail every single time, so please ignore me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I have written a comment about this before, but somehow, it did not show up. </p>
<p>Yes, I am in Canada as of now, and has only been here for a few months, I do not plan to live here, and probably will go back to China soon. I have driven more Chinese cars in my life than you have posted comments about them, and seriously, I would prefer this over a GM or <a title="Toyota" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/toyota-china">Toyota</a>, at least I know that the gas pedal won&#8217;t get stuck, and the brakes won&#8217;t fail all of a sudden.</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t know, there is something called TRAVELING, yes, how new and exciting. Just because I&#8217;m not in China right now doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not Chinese, neither does it mean I did not live my whole life in China.</p>
<p>I would love it if you actually ignored me instead of biting  my tail every single time, so please ignore me.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257935</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I just keep asking since I know you aren&#039;t in China.   Curious when you drove one.   Not so curious really on why you like it since you must not know anything about cars.   That car really does not drive well so if that is your opinion we all should just ignore your thoughts on any of the cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I just keep asking since I know you aren&#8217;t in China.   Curious when you drove one.   Not so curious really on why you like it since you must not know anything about cars.   That car really does not drive well so if that is your opinion we all should just ignore your thoughts on any of the cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I have driven a Chinese car, do I have to tell you this ten thousand times?! I said I would PREFER THIS OVER a Toyota or GM, I like the Brilliance car better, I didn&#039;t say please tell me what to think. I connected this to GM and Toyota because they are the big brand names which I think are way worse than this car, of course there are millions of others that I can list for you, but I do not want to, so I listed the biggest names, happy? There&#039;s your explanation. Don&#039;t ask me again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I have driven a Chinese car, do I have to tell you this ten thousand times?! I said I would PREFER THIS OVER a <a title="Toyota" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/toyota-china">Toyota</a> or GM, I like the <a title="Brilliance" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/brilliance-auto/">Brilliance</a> car better, I didn&#8217;t say please tell me what to think. I connected this to GM and <a title="Toyota" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/toyota-china">Toyota</a> because they are the big brand names which I think are way worse than this car, of course there are millions of others that I can list for you, but I do not want to, so I listed the biggest names, happy? There&#8217;s your explanation. Don&#8217;t ask me again.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257817</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed why is everything you talk about compared to Toyota or GM?   That car is way worse than any toyota or GM except maybe the yaris and aveo.    Have you ever driven a Chinese car.   It seems you are just a fan of the idea of Chnese cars being better than everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed why is everything you talk about compared to <a title="Toyota" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/toyota-china">Toyota</a> or GM?   That car is way worse than any toyota or GM except maybe the yaris and aveo.    Have you ever driven a Chinese car.   It seems you are just a fan of the idea of Chnese cars being better than everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257756</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t a car worth passing on? Excuse me?! I would prefer this car any day over a Toyota or a GM. There are PLENTY of people, not just Chinese people that would love to have this. Crushing it is a waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t a car worth passing on? Excuse me?! I would prefer this car any day over a <a title="Toyota" href="http://www.chinacartimes.com/category/toyota-china">Toyota</a> or a GM. There are PLENTY of people, not just Chinese people that would love to have this. Crushing it is a waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257649</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it wasn&#039;t a car worth passing on so crushing it is ok.  Better to recycle it so it has a chance at being made into rebar for a new apartment building.   A much better life for the steel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it wasn&#8217;t a car worth passing on so crushing it is ok.  Better to recycle it so it has a chance at being made into rebar for a new apartment building.   A much better life for the steel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? So that money, and the efforts into making this car could be lost? giving it to someone else who needs a car or selling it would be much better. This is where the brain comes in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? So that money, and the efforts into making this car could be lost? giving it to someone else who needs a car or selling it would be much better. This is where the brain comes in.</p>
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		<title>By: Head Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257474</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should take her car to the car crusher.   Oops your tail light is broken too.  You can&#039;t drive that we need to impound it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should take her car to the car crusher.   Oops your tail light is broken too.  You can&#8217;t drive that we need to impound it.</p>
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		<title>By: LoveChinaLongTime</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257471</link>
		<dc:creator>LoveChinaLongTime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another note on this incident in Guizhou: Ugly c**ts with bad attitudes should not drive arrogantly and attack reporters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another note on this incident in Guizhou: Ugly c**ts with bad attitudes should not drive arrogantly and attack reporters!</p>
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		<title>By: LoveChinaLongTime</title>
		<link>http://www.chinacartimes.com/2010/03/25/guizhou-driver-upset-at-being-stopped-beats-up-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-257469</link>
		<dc:creator>LoveChinaLongTime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how in China as soon as someone is pulled over, out comes the mobile phone to try to intimidate the officer as to what sort of guanxi the perp might have.

Then they get out of the car and argue and plead the fine with the officer. No respect whatsoever (not that Chinese police really deserve much in the first place).

Don&#039;t know if you guys notice where you are, but in Guangdong (national leader in not obeying laws) there has been an epidemic in the last year and a half or so of cars driving around without plates. Seems they can do all the things the military plates do (park wherever, drive through red lights, speed) and not worry about being ticketed as quite a lot of times the cops fear who might own the car. And cops do NOT do the random check, unlike this Guizhou incident.

I once had to call the traffic police office to come ticket and tow a car that parked EVERY single night at the same spot (illegally) near my home. Car was a Merc 2-dr sports car naturally driven by some 20 yr-old bimbette of Northern China origin. The night the tow truck actually came, she luckily popped out with her girly friend (it was around 10pm so I assume they were out to meet sugar daddy) and when she opened her boot to show she had plates, after the cop asked to see them, everyone (there was a crowd by then) got to see that she actually had FOUR plates and had to shuffle for for the right ones!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how in China as soon as someone is pulled over, out comes the mobile phone to try to intimidate the officer as to what sort of guanxi the perp might have.</p>
<p>Then they get out of the car and argue and plead the fine with the officer. No respect whatsoever (not that Chinese police really deserve much in the first place).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if you guys notice where you are, but in Guangdong (national leader in not obeying laws) there has been an epidemic in the last year and a half or so of cars driving around without plates. Seems they can do all the things the military plates do (park wherever, drive through red lights, speed) and not worry about being ticketed as quite a lot of times the cops fear who might own the car. And cops do NOT do the random check, unlike this Guizhou incident.</p>
<p>I once had to call the traffic police office to come ticket and tow a car that parked EVERY single night at the same spot (illegally) near my home. Car was a Merc 2-dr sports car naturally driven by some 20 yr-old bimbette of Northern China origin. The night the tow truck actually came, she luckily popped out with her girly friend (it was around 10pm so I assume they were out to meet sugar daddy) and when she opened her boot to show she had plates, after the cop asked to see them, everyone (there was a crowd by then) got to see that she actually had FOUR plates and had to shuffle for for the right ones!!</p>
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		<title>By: joninchina</title>
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		<dc:creator>joninchina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First things first - this is disgusting, and I hope that this woman is prosecuted for not only the driving crimes, but for the attack on the journalist.

With that said, I also need to say this.....driving in China is not QUITE as crazy as it seems.  Once again, as the older generation starts to retire (and therefore are driving less), things slowly get better.  Why?  Simple - many of the older drivers got their license &quot;under the table&quot; so to speak - with no training or education whatsoever in driving laws or proper driving techniques.  The younger generation (by and large) is actually doing the required training and going to the many driving schools that are all over China now - and while they might be overly cautious on the streets as new drivers, I&#039;ll take that over the crazy, lane changing, horn honking, unsafe OLDER drivers that are still out there.  For those of us who drive here (car or motorcycle), we still need to be really cautious because it DOES still get crazy out there on the streets......but if anything, I would say the current atmosphere is now &quot;predictably unpredictable&quot; - in other words if you know that the driver in front of you has no idea what they&#039;re doing, you know enough to stay out of their way!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first &#8211; this is disgusting, and I hope that this woman is prosecuted for not only the driving crimes, but for the attack on the journalist.</p>
<p>With that said, I also need to say this&#8230;..driving in China is not QUITE as crazy as it seems.  Once again, as the older generation starts to retire (and therefore are driving less), things slowly get better.  Why?  Simple &#8211; many of the older drivers got their license &#8220;under the table&#8221; so to speak &#8211; with no training or education whatsoever in driving laws or proper driving techniques.  The younger generation (by and large) is actually doing the required training and going to the many driving schools that are all over China now &#8211; and while they might be overly cautious on the streets as new drivers, I&#8217;ll take that over the crazy, lane changing, horn honking, unsafe OLDER drivers that are still out there.  For those of us who drive here (car or motorcycle), we still need to be really cautious because it DOES still get crazy out there on the streets&#8230;&#8230;but if anything, I would say the current atmosphere is now &#8220;predictably unpredictable&#8221; &#8211; in other words if you know that the driver in front of you has no idea what they&#8217;re doing, you know enough to stay out of their way!!  <img src='http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is so stupid, what a shame to Guiyang city.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring that program to Yanji city , Jilin ... the drivers here seem to be stupid idiots that want to die. every block you drive here, you are trying to avoid stupid dangerous drivers ( mostly taxis ) and the I haven&#039;t seen any police patrolling since last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring that program to Yanji city , Jilin &#8230; the drivers here seem to be stupid idiots that want to die. every block you drive here, you are trying to avoid stupid dangerous drivers ( mostly taxis ) and the I haven&#8217;t seen any police patrolling since last year.</p>
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