Taiwan’s Yulong to build factory in China
From AFP:
ulon Motor, Taiwan’s largest automaker by revenue, said Monday it had received the green light from China’s government to start producing its high-tech Luxgen passenger vehicle there from next year.Yulon plans to manufacture the car in a joint venture with China’s Dongfeng Automobile Co at a plant in eastern China’s Zhejiang province, with a total investment of 7.31 billion Taiwan dollars (230 million US).
“We’ll unveil the approval of the mainland authorities within the next two days,” a Yulon spokeswoman told AFP on condition of anonymity.
She added the 50-50 joint venture would have an initial capacity of 120,000 units per year, with the first Luxgen cars rolling off the assembly lines next year.
Yulon, which now mainly produces Nissan cars in Taiwan on licence, has already invested in a joint venture with a Chinese automaker and Daimler to make Mercedes vans in the southeastern province of Fujian.
The Luxgen project has cost Yulon about 15 billion Taiwanese dollars since it started four years ago.
The first Luxgen, a 2.2-litre minivan for family use, was unveiled in Taiwan in September and since then Yulon has received orders from more than 10,000 local motorists, Luxgen said.
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Yulong are after a JV because of this http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2010/08/195_70645.html
CCT
I have to apologize to bring up the sensitive China-Taiwan-US relationship issue. I understand that CCT may get pressure from Chinese web monitors and threat for closing down your site. Well this is the usual trick they apply to the media inside China. Censorship is the norm and I promise not to bring up similar issue again.
Victory to communism and sorry to free speech !!!
HK = the thread had become an embarrassment to the site. Nobody except for an angry me removed the 40+ nationalistic, borderline racist comments from this thread.
CCT
May be I think too much if the case is liked that. I am sorry for creating such embarrassment here. I admit that some of my posts are nationalistic but in no way racist. Your removal of all comments is unfair to some contributors in this thread, I hope you can release those fair comments to let readers of CCT have a better understanding of Taiwan-China relation. Regards!
@ hk
> I understand that CCT may get pressure from Chinese web monitors and threat for closing down your site.
Well, this is why us foreigners are expecting China to never join the rank of developed nations. There is no such thing as a developed nation with no free speech.
Lack of free speech in China is a blessing for foreigners, as a free, democratic China is far more dangerous than a restricted, authoritarian China.
Internet censorship is nothing new and South Korea is no free speech wonderland either. If this site was based in South Korea then users would need to enter their registration number to be able to post and any mention of North Korea would probably be censored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship
If anti Chinese posts didn’t always go off topic and rant about other rubbish then more serious commentary and discussion could take place instead of going down nationalistic lines.
No objection to CCT deleting the posts that are off topic even if some are my own. CCT and many of us here have contributed greatly to this site and have helped grow it into what it has become today where even mainstream media use it as a source of information.
@ woxihuanpijiu
> Internet censorship is nothing new and South Korea is no free speech wonderland either.
It is actually pretty close to being the free speech wonderland, and some people get carried away by their free speech rights and abuse it.
> If this site was based in South Korea then users would need to enter their registration number to be able to post
So that police can trace when a law is violated, like campaign law violation, defamation, spread of false rumors to manipulate stock prices, spam marketing, threatening to kill someone, soliciting prostitution, etc. These are not protected under free speech right.
Other than this, it’s pretty much anything goes. You can criticize politicians and politics, companies, anything. Heck you can even freely criticize Korea in Korean internet and that’s exactly what you see Japanese rightwingers and Chinese doing in Korea. Are they censored or deleted? Absolutely not.
> and any mention of North Korea would probably be censored.
You get the same thing when you praise Hitler and Nazis in Germany.
About the censorship of North Korea, you can pretty much talk anything about North Korea freely in the South. What’s not being allowed is praising and worshiping North Korean regime and Kim Jong Il, because there are pro-communist people who are actually doing that. You can worship serial killers and mass murderers, but not Kim Jong Il.
But as long as you stay out of praising NK regime and Kim Jong Il, you can criticize Korea in Korea all you want. That may trigger some massive flame war, but no censorship.
Not going to drag this thread down again with more BS off topic from the thread title (which is just someones opinion with no facts to back it up)…. Intelligent readers can read the wiki link above and below and do other research on their own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_websites_banned_in_South_Korea
“Lack of free speech in China is a blessing for foreigners, as a free, democratic China is far more dangerous than a restricted, authoritarian China.”
IHC, such comment is contradictory to your fellow countryman korean_guy’s belief. k_q always stress how evil the communist regime is and adverse effects to the world. Why do you want to keep it that way? Have you asked the permission from your big brother Uncle Sam to spread such idea?
How dangerous is a free & democratic China? Oh! I see, it is dangerous to Korea’s future especially it’s auto industry.
@hk
“How dangerous is a free & democratic China? Oh! I see, it is dangerous to Korea’s future especially it’s auto industry.”
You guys like to imagine us Koreans, or for that matter the whole world, trembling at your growth and influence don’t you? No need for Korea to be alarmed or threatened by China.
It’s possible that China will adopt capitalism and start building quality-based progressive economy, but it’s highly unlikely. Why? It takes years, at least another 60 to 70 years, to undo the current mindset of most Chinese. China would be a threat to Korea only if they started to produce & provide high quality products & services, of which they are unable to do at present.
On a side note: I always wondered how a corrupt government like China could subdue a population of 1.3 billion. If China really wanted democracy they could have.
What will happen is the collapse of the current regime in the near future & China splitting into various countries (like the what happened to Soviet Union). The current regime is pissing their pants unsuccessfully trying control the economy and the people (just look at how vigorously they are trying to censor the internet). This is just a matter of time.
@hk
“it is dangerous to Korea’s future especially it’s auto industry.”
Sorry but it ain’t gonna happen. All Chinese who initially purchased Chinese-made cars will purchase better-built non-Chinese cars for their next purchase. Even the most hardcore Chinese Nationalist can’t save low quality automobile coupled with Chinese propensity for foreign made products will be a serious blow to Chinese automakers.
OK k_g, I have to admit that some Korean cars are up to Japan’s high standard and can stand face to face competition against peers. However, I am oversea Chinese and should be qualified to tell our buying pattern.
Here is the shopping list :-
1) German
2) Japanese
3) American (not Daewoo in Chevy disguise)
4) Chinese/Korean
5) French/Italian
Korean cars enjoy some success only in northern China where they are locally made. The hotspot of the biggest & fastest growing Chinese market is in the south. Chinese domestic brands are coming up rapidly (Riich G5 & G6, Geely EC718…), the choice between these improved models and Korean’s is obvious.
To all Koreans in CCT, let me bring you back to the reality. There are actually 2 China, one is the mega to big cities and one is the small cities & poor villages. That explains why the age-old Jetta & Sentana are still selling well in China. Those low-quality domestic brands are meant for local consumption only. Exportable models are under development to meet the mature markets’ standards. If you just eye on those current domestic models, then you are living in your own imagination.
Geely’s quality will improve drastically after Volvo acquisition, I am sure the Swedish engineers will work for Geely. A new brand will be created from Geely and found in Volvo dealerships worldwide. Volvo’s new models will move down to capture the mass market. Let us wait & see what will happen in the future automotive world. Japanese cars will face strong competition from Volvo (Chinese-made Volvo, Swedish-made Volvo remains premium) and Korean cars from Geely’s new brand. Of course other Chinese makers like SAIC, Chery, Great Wall… are not just sitting there, an all-out war has already started.
CCT… Please shut this thread down. Enough’s enough…..